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Dear Otfried, Many thanks for your Fra Dolcino reference. The problem is when the 'Lezenda' was written, after 1260, of course. That could give us a clue as to whether a more general or more pointed reference is intended. But the connection of "Gaz(z)ari" with the followers of Fra Dolcino is intriguing, because, as you know, Segarelli's Apostles--the sectarian ancestors of Fra Dolcino?--were founded the same memorable, Joachite year, 1260, as that which saw the flagellant movement, and in the Parma of Salimbene, who led flagellant processions. Gary Dickson University of Edinburgh %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%