As an outsider who subscribes to crit-geog-forum for the intellectual connections rather than the interminable IBG-RGS saga, I must say that the most impressive statement made in debate thus far is that posted by Ron Johnston. Can it really be true that the RGS connection is going to reduce the intellectual content of Transactions and Area, and cost members MORE rather than less? Or is this just old fashioned materialist analysis? It seems to me that members of the IBG 'bought' an idea of partnership with less than ideal partners in a tough and difficult world, but that - as with so many other development partnerships - the pudding proves inedible. Alan Mabin Programme for Planning Research/ Department of Town and Regional Planning Witwatersrand University Johannesburg, Gauteng, South Africa phone +27 11 716 2688 fax +27 11 403 2519 also use [log in to unmask] %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%