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What strikes Dennis Martin about Kieckhefer's "unquiet souls" is very much what struck me, that they were outside the context of an established monastic regime, which might have encouraged greater moderation. I wonder most about those who were mendicants or had mendicants as confessors. How prepared were Mendicants to provide spiritual direction, as opposed to hearing confessions along the lines of the casuist summae which friars composed. I looked at Raymond of Penafort last night. Neither it nor some of the others which I have used in the past seem to be long on spiritual advice. My memory of Antoninus of Florence, however, is that he had a less purely legalistic viewpoint. tom izbicki %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%