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It may be totally irrelevant but Otfried's quote > Sy ne suis, bien le considere, > Filz d'ange portant diadame > D'estoille ne d'autre sidoire... reminds me Relevation 12:1: 'a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars'. My apologies if this is an overly simplistic response! Sophie Oosterwijk %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%