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Hi there Ian Many thanks that was spot on! The college is fully involved with the 'Jotta' and its bits and bobs. They will be in a position to help with 'Jotta' problems Contact: Mr Norman Simms Royal National College for the Blind College Road Hereford. HR1 1EB 01432 265725 THANKS AGAIN. Alan. Alan Muller Able Centre Middlesex University Queensway, Enfield EN3 4SF TEL: 0181 362 5366 EMAIL: [log in to unmask] %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%