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I would love to have total anarchy :) On 01/05/23 19:51, Hillary Shaw wrote: > A potentially interesting debate that deserved more nuanced debate > than the slam-dunk I don;t like that knee jerk reaction. > > Yes, companies cannpt be relied on to act resposnibly, generally, > eithger socially or environmentally. At heart they don;t exist to sell > a product, that is incidental to theior main aim, profit creation for > sharehlderrs. > > However, destruction of infrastructure (or related actions like Just > Stop Oil blocking roads - a sort of temporary destruction of > infrastructure, may get good publicity and highlight vita;l causes - > they also provoke a reaction from the State, whoich is basically > acting as a lackey of the corporations here, as it wants the tax and > GDP from them, and may initially at least achieve the exact opposite > of what the p[rotestors / activists want. > > The State legal system has something called the 'floodgates principle' > - basically, 'we can't allow that or everyone would do it and we'd > have total anarchy'. May not be true, but it is used to crack down on > any intial protests, often, and creates the pretext for more draconian > law enforcement. > > So what to do. Surely not, sit back and let the planet fry, or rely on > so,me nebulous non existent altruism by avaricious shareholders. > > How about consumer action, exercise of choice, along with both wide > and targetted publicity, nudges, guilt induction. > > I guess that's all a lot harder work physically and mentally than > blowing something up, though. > > Dr Hillary J Shaw > Centre for Urban Research on Austerity > Faculty of Business and Law > De Montfort University, Leicester > LE1 9BH > http://dmu.ac.uk/about-dmu/academic-staff/business-and-law/hilary-shaw/hillary-shaw.aspx > /www.fooddeserts.org <http://www.fooddeserts.org/>/ > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stefano Portelli <[log in to unmask]> > To: [log in to unmask] > Sent: Mon, 1 May 2023 16:56 > Subject: Re: Why Blowing up Pipelines will not Solve the Climate Crisis > > Let me add, for those who didn't print it and pinned it on a wall of > their living room as I did, this famous quote by Fredric Douglass: > > "Those who profess to favor freedom and yet depreciate agitation, are > people who want crops without ploughing the ground; they want rain > without thunder and lightning; they want the ocean without the roar of > its many waters" . > > > Il lun 1 mag 2023, 16:40 Jean Boucher <[log in to unmask]> ha scritto: > > I love it, thx, Anja! - Jean > > On Mon, May 1, 2023 at 12:03 PM Anja Lind <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > Jesus christ, what an offensive piece of capitalist apology, > on the first of May of all days, doing its very best to > uncritically shroud practices of infrastructural disruption in > the language of /violence/. "A commitment to ballots not > bullets is crucial"—what a fucking galling quip in the country > of mass-shootings, to compare damaging a /pipeline/ to > shooting humans. > If any of you are curious: it's not worth the read, just > corporatist apologetics, pleading that we must simply wait for > the shareholders to fix the climate. Utter drivel. > Den 01.05.2023 08:25, skrev Ilan Kelman: >> "Why Blowing up Pipelines will not Solve the Climate Crisis" >> By Nives Dolsak and Aseem Prakash >> https://www.forbes.com/sites/prakashdolsak/2023/05/01/why-blowing-up-pipelines-will-not-solve-the-climate-crisis >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> To unsubscribe from the CRIT-GEOG-FORUM list, click the >> following link: >> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CRIT-GEOG-FORUM&A=1 >> <https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CRIT-GEOG-FORUM&A=1> >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from the CRIT-GEOG-FORUM list, click the > following link: > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CRIT-GEOG-FORUM&A=1 > <https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CRIT-GEOG-FORUM&A=1> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from the CRIT-GEOG-FORUM list, click the following > link: > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CRIT-GEOG-FORUM&A=1 > <https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CRIT-GEOG-FORUM&A=1> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from the CRIT-GEOG-FORUM list, click the following link: > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CRIT-GEOG-FORUM&A=1 > <https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CRIT-GEOG-FORUM&A=1> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the CRIT-GEOG-FORUM list, click the following link: > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CRIT-GEOG-FORUM&A=1 > <https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CRIT-GEOG-FORUM&A=1> > > ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the CRIT-GEOG-FORUM list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CRIT-GEOG-FORUM&A=1 This message was issued to members of www.jiscmail.ac.uk/CRIT-GEOG-FORUM, a mailing list hosted by www.jiscmail.ac.uk, terms & conditions are available at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/policyandsecurity/