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Hi all, for the English etymology, check https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=crank It's a native English word, not a loan, but obviously cognate. 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Dezember 2022 12:13 > *An:* [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> > *Betreff:* Re: [EXT] Re: Questions questions (just a little one) > > *EXTERNAL EMAIL:* This email originated outside the University of Galway. > Do not open attachments or click on links unless you believe the content is > safe. > *RÍOMHPHOST SEACHTRACH:* Níor tháinig an ríomhphost seo ó Ollscoil na > Gaillimhe. Ná hoscail ceangaltáin agus ná cliceáil ar naisc mura gcreideann > tú go bhfuil an t-ábhar sábháilte. > > Dear Naomi > > On that latter point, Peter Lutzeier was at one time compiling a > dictionary of words that encompassed two opposite meanings (like ‘to dust’ > or ‘to cleave’). I don’t know if it ever came to fruition. > > Best wishes > > Jonathan. > > > > *From:* JISCmail German Studies List <[log in to unmask]> *On > Behalf Of *Naomi Segal > *Sent:* 06 December 2022 11:33 > *To:* [log in to unmask] > *Subject:* Re: [EXT] Re: Questions questions (just a little one) > > > > *[EXTERNAL EMAIL]* > > Dear Dan & everyone > > > > I always thought it was an [albeit rather more shocking to modern eyes] > euphemism for ‘by our Lady’, rather too Catholic or just generally thought > blasphemous. > > > > Thank you so much, everybody, no more replies needed, the OED had the > answer all along! > > > > Alles Gute > > Naomi > > > > PS my favourite interlingual oddity is the fact that kalt/cold is > obviously the same word as chaud/caldo. This is one of Freud’s words that > mean something & also its opposite; he argues that meaning is on a spectrum > rather than one-to-one (‘Über den Gegensinn der Urworte’, 1910) > > > > > > > > Professor Naomi Segal > > Professor Emerita, Institute of Languages, Cultures & Societies > > School of Advanced Study, University of London > > Senate House, Malet St., London WCIE 7HU, UK > > > > tel: +44 (0)20 7272 6438 > > email: [log in to unmask] > > webpage: > https://research.sas.ac.uk/institute-imlr/fellow/149/professor-naomi-segal/ > > Cultural Literacy Everywhere: www.cle.world > > > > > > > > *From:* JISCmail German Studies List <[log in to unmask]> *On > Behalf Of *Wilson, D > *Sent:* 06 December 2022 11:10 > *To:* [log in to unmask] > *Subject:* Re: [EXT] Re: Questions questions (just a little one) > > > > I'm fairly convinced that the etymology of "bloody" was as a blasphemy > referring to Jesus' blood, cf. other references to crucifixion in the > obsolete "zounds" (God's wounds) and "Gadzooks" or "zooks" (God's hooks = > nails), so omitting or altering "God". All very bloody. > > > > > > > > Sent from my Galaxy > > > > > > > > -------- Original message -------- > > From: Tom Wolber <[log in to unmask]> > > Date: 06/12/2022 10:49 (GMT+00:00) > > To: [log in to unmask] > > Subject: [EXT] Re: Questions questions (just a little one) > > > > I don't have any hard etymological evidence, but I have always thought the > connection was obvious and told my students so. If you are "krank," you > tend to be cranky. There are many such hidden connections between the two > languages, e.g., Zimmer / timber, Zaun / town, Zeit / tide, Garten / yard, > etc. I am also fairly convinced that the very British term "bloody" has > nothing to do with blood, but is related to the German adjective "blöd(e)," > meaning dumb, silly, feeble-inded, idiotic, naive. 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