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Hi Jade,

If flattened, what about Cyperus or Fimbricystis?

All best,
Susan

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On Mar 5, 2022, at 8:25 PM, Jade D'Alpoim Guedes <[log in to unmask]> wrote:


Hi Abdurrahim,
I did check Vicia ervilia but its an extremely flat seed in three dimensions whereas most of the V. ervilia I have in my reference collection is more three dimensional in shape and not flat in side profile. Are there also flatter types I have missed? Thanks for responding to my query!
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On Sat, Mar 5, 2022 at 5:12 PM abdurrahim cavit özcan <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
Hi Jade,

İndeed it looks like Vicia Ervilia.


Sincerely.

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Konu: Re: Help with Undet seed

Hi Mark,
Thank you so much for the response. I did check that, however, these are not as three dimensional and quite flat in side profile ( I realize I should go back in and take a side profile picture as well to help with the ID).
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On Sat, Mar 5, 2022 at 3:36 PM Mark Robinson <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
Dear Jade,

                   Could it be Vicia ervilia?

Best wishes,
Mark


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Subject: Help with Undet seed

Hi Archaeobotanists,

I'm wondering if anyone has any insights into this should be highly recognizable undet seed I have from Harappa, Pakistan?  I'm coming up blank on this one.

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