Mr Skinner has very kindly issued a blog in which he talks about two short poems of mine for 39 minutes.
https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9yc3MucG9kcGxheXN0dWRpby5jb20vMTMwMC54bWw/episode/YTExNDhjYjk2NTQ0MWYwMzVkYzRiMTFhZTg3Y2RjMTU?hl=en-GB&ved=2ahUKEwjYtN331avxAhVuQUEAHTEsBPQQieUEegQIBBAI&ep=6