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Dear colleagues, Although I am not an expert in aDNA, I have the strong feeling that this paper presents a huge brake-through concerning the analysis of charred ancient plant DNA. Earlier positive results with aDNA from charred cereals were considered as false positives based on a.o. heating experiments and the (non-)survival of DNA, but apparently there is a “small window of heating parameters that can, in some cases, give rise to charred archaeobotanical material in which some intact DNA is preserved.” This opens new perspectives (apart from the great results presented here for T. timopheevii). For instance also for the analysis of Triticum durum/turgidum type that is so characteristic of Dutch and German Michelsberg culture (Late Neolithic) sites. This “hard” wheat does not at all occur in any other Dutch (and German in assume) archaeological period! Wouldn’t it be great to have aDNA confirmation of this tetraploid wheat, and maybe even of either of the two species?? Could any aDNA-specialist among our group bring me back to earth (if I am dreaming) of support this view??? All the best, oTTo Van: The archaeobotany mailing list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Namens Aldona Mueller-Bieniek Verzonden: donderdag 15 oktober 2020 8:28 Aan: [log in to unmask] Onderwerp: Another new paper - with appologies for cross-posting Dear colleagues and friends, The New Glume Wheat story upgrade is ready and you can find it under the following link https://authors.elsevier.com/c/1btCF15SlToghZ The paper is accessible free until 27.November.2020 With best wishes, stay healthy and calm Aldona -- dr hab. Aldona Mueller-Bieniek, prof. IB PAN ----------------------------------------------- Institute of Botany PAS Lubicz 46 PL31-512 Kraków 0048 12 42 41 754 https://orcid.org/0000-0002-5330-4580 https://botany.academia.edu/AldonaMuellerBieniek https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Aldona_Mueller-Bieniek https://www.botany.pl/images/who_en/bieniek.htm Administratorem Pani/Pana danych osobowych jest Instytut Botaniki im. W. Szafera Polskiej Akademii Nauk z siedzibą przy ul. Lubicz 46, 31-512 Kraków. Na podstawie przepisów RODO mają Państwo prawo żądania dostępu, sprostowania, usunięcia lub ograniczenia dostępu do danych osobowych, a także wniesienia sprzeciwu oraz wniesienia skargi do organu nadzorczego. Kontakt do Inspektora Ochrony Danych: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>. Pełna treść informacji odnośnie przetwarzania Pani/Pana danych znajduje się na stronie internetowej: https://botany.pl/rodo/ [https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/M9hoBvhFD3OvnfHo7NkNf3WUXTyUUYPe6iUQKZ8iMHS7kiaAaanBM1nttcTFBte1cynJ-DywVk4LVWf9JaPU2a_kfuIAduugDjdTIkRdmGiIUY1Kt3dhXIIoqY_N3BrpWAUCJKLYA811nXMMx6fe0EpJUehnZBEByszVL83FaeDAX1Idk5lYrPJgzb6nI-6HOMigzyvlfl-3L5qN_9LAHonbwARbNDm5tFMs6KZRHfSxyOadCwZtY-C25eEh6HXmSJmC-0zxOr5ia-475h6htMIwAlzLZANmq_yUg39nZs3CPA7u78vUla9ShzdTSw9k9eZmc4_j_5Tfo-w7km8Qifl_a31pdPPnDWziy1SLgF6C5zcONr7F0Qv02XLZgierEm9JMRcjOEtF9Bif9pZaAorFxBGvfCfL8FrBeWs741vt5aI6g88yP8jw0H4t5t2lYaN4bpC9rOfBBmlat31B9SnLVPuVLjMhfn4l_MPP8gWcrYeZFbjzrZeRvV1e392-F2fPZYcOq3_n-X49rveNupyJsX8NUg9B4oPgP0W5SqmAeu3HxHB1fFnES4pZW2-waAK2tCMSR9HXHcY28MtmLHRN4kx76sgFsWiknlfw9-yLLbxAbXlI5Y4-iHSZaCiZ3jxwsbGSMsoD6R4L5Zk-CBE2uqgRijzHEa7euPTG3ElZwHHzfcwyb-uoWivS=s142-no?authuser=0][https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/97xDb6U4-6EkYcw0pPtBHNgVUSGIPsy8heYEiBRo0nfEwj2c8NnOTMYjPlKQBA0vdOzUsZlf4A3LsdzEfUdmtwjSTnmxH3s8EDCUWbdcurXPGInOjfiqMSCS0mVdnDAnnHGqmR9cP3IG6kWtahUxHXpvAI9Av0DBtWx13zQSvP8kAJ8ddpxu0QIkgEfczjvvCvA4DelQu51udnio6AlnOcbbt9dKR3NhWoSa6pLrEIO0mxet5NzLaXLsyK4Hsc8KTMT74_2A0OxMJHmP-JRFhDeXBjFOU6lUCutrMiZ5FlO5FWE_G9QizrUv1J_vDsENxDX_laDvyrRHYVdXYhSjAuxhaAY8Rg1o8KcAw_1loSZCJxVkNBmrQ5VH4_xAwLAzOFB1SXYvbNaZ3QqqCyETzHLeCJMsBagI1LaPpNh3s-K1DlgL83_4XxOe_S1RJ8nikys3TikNk3AxqrKY4CHHFwrC_5giWLcq3P8n1SMDykaptgnD716-N3FxXdnsHQn7QkD8Z5BF0udtUvRvrNlNWqf_KsDFtfEnM8IL3jK0yFNcZyxpjVUZyyNkSkdJkfwcsxkfMDJifDFKvdboNltIlAOw-8gVxE8EZq7LFSZxzKXKqOfm3cuP-Hz1r90AoxwoaPSxZ8dyNG_gwb_M1E4tpBkx0CCr55n0ejL6Wn6S8TPcl8WZJ5GByQTzq_1p=w210-h142-no?authuser=0] ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the ARCHAEOBOTANY list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=ARCHAEOBOTANY&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the ARCHAEOBOTANY list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=ARCHAEOBOTANY&A=1 This message was issued to members of www.jiscmail.ac.uk/ARCHAEOBOTANY, a mailing list hosted by www.jiscmail.ac.uk, terms & conditions are available at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/policyandsecurity/