Thank you for your kindness, Margaret.Best,KimWe are all here to learn from each other. Thank you, Kim, for entrusting us with the gift of your pain.
I am among those who have too often exercised the ability not to see/attend to the racial structures that affect us so disparately. The horror of police brutality is that “they” are doing it on “our” behalf. If we (“people of good will”) want things to change, we have to do more than find someone else to blame. We have to do more than ask someone else to do the work.
Thank you for inviting us to be more human, Kim--
Margaret
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Colleagues,
I wish that I could respond to this gracefully—because Dan Lochman, at the very least, knows how much affection I hold for him. And I know that you wish to be productive: there is a time for that discussion. But yesterday, my 13-year-old son wondered why the police want to kill him. And today I am not OK. I don’t actually care if Spenser goes extinct. I only hope that my child does not. Please hold space for your black colleagues on and off this list, who are grieving on so many levels.
We can resume important questions of culture, and of race--and how we teach both—at a later time. Right now, collectively, we have to mourn. Tomorrow, we have work to do.
In solidarity,
Kim
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Donald,
Thanks for the lamentation, thoughts, and suggestions: these are the days for the elegiac, in many respects. It is time for Tears of the Muses.
Let's hope there is a resurgence in interest in literature generally and early modern literature specifically, but the constant barrage calling for utilitarian education works against us, as well as now social disintegration. At least there are those few rebels who, as you write, frequently take creative writing. You are correct that we need to show that early modern texts are also creative, delightful, important -- and, I might add, relevant, if, for instance, a case could be made for study of texts composed in a culture led by someone like Henry VIII.
A few thoughts:
At least in the near term we are going to have to teach online courses more often, making reliance on traditional textbooks more complicated and difficult. We may need to think about developing good, scholarly but teachable online editions of works like the Fairie Queene (or parts thereof): sadly, the Scholars' Bank Grosart text of FQ lacks basic navigational information such as stanza numbers as well as apparatus and annotations. There is an e-text of Hamilton's edition, but it is not especially inviting to a student encountering the work for the first time. Online texts/resources would be ideal for the richly illustrated, easily accessed texts you mention that aim at the beginning undergraduate -- perhaps, too, we could jointly develop a pool of legally accessible teaching resources that could be established and housed on a list-serv or website.
We need to find ways to make the study of English early modern literature important and interesting to a diverse student body: if we cannot access many texts in English by writers outside Britain, perhaps we need to find ways to link world exploration / exploitation to our texts more directly and consider the value of assigning some relevant early modern international texts to broaden the appeal and significance of an early modern world that must seem more alien to our students than it did when we first encountered it.
Our fall undergraduate classes here are presently under-enrolled --perhaps because many students are waiting to see what formats of classes we offer and what living situations will be, given the ongoing pandemic.
Surprisingly, our graduate literature classes here are full for fall, including my Spenser one -- at least for now. For the spring I am perhaps foolishly offering for the first time a single-author undergraduate course titled "Spenser Teaches Us to Read" -- not sure how that will go, but if it makes I plan to spend the semester with just a couple books of FQ and other poems to try to nurture interest on a smaller, less daunting scale.
Unfortunately, we are in the midst of a major social realignment and have limited control over the outcome. We can only do what we can and try to persuade those in charge to keep delight and imagination well and thriving in humanity.
Dan Lochman
Professor, Department of English
Texas State University
San Marcos, TX 78666-4616
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In a review of Gordon Tesky's new book and my own in the May 15 issue of the Times Literary Supplement, Andrew Hadfield raised the issue of low student interest in, and exposure to, major writers such as Spenser.
As I wrote to Andrew in response, we are seeing the equivalent of species extinction on a scale almost as widespread we are for trees. It's going on in all periods of literature, and it's alarming. To miss Spenser is like never having seen a live elm or a 300-foot American Chestnut. Someday, I'm afraid, we in the early modern period will be down to Shakespeare, the one hoary giant that our students can drive their electric cars through on their way to Silicon Valley.
I know there's been a lot of general discussion of this, but I think we need to take practical steps. Here are three I've been thinking about:
- We could work to reduce the barriers to a first encounter with Spenser and Sidney by preparing modern-spelling, deftly introduced and annotated, and fantastically illustrated on-line starter excerpts fromThe Faerie Queene and Arcadia and the two sonnet sequences (set over against Shakespeare's Sonnets?) for all of us to have available for introductory classes. When the building is on fire, fussing about old spelling and arcane information--much as I love both--isn't the first step.
- We could send an English Department representative to talk each year with our University admissions counselors to get them to stop talking about English as the place to learn 'critical thinking.' This isn't the 60s, and this generation hasn't been raised to long to be free and challenge norms--though, of course, they need to learn to do that in fresh ways as much as ever. In an age of financial crises, pandemics, race riots, and helicopter parents, so many of them just want order, security, safety.
- In our departmental publicity, we could stress the delight and value of learning to imagine one's way into fascinating worlds crafted by great minds as places to play and, in playing, to find ways to negotiate the challenges of life.
What fascinates me is that, in a time of fewer English majors, so many are coming to my department to study creative writing, and bless them for that. They live in imaginary social and gaming worlds every day, and I wonder if they aren't drawn to CW because they want to be left alone to dream, to explore people on their own terms, and to prepare to negotiate what seems to them a threatening world in quiet ways that they never had time for in their relentless rounds of adult-controlled after-school activities and sports.
Imagination alone with a text is what English lit teachers do best--though that has its own problems, of course. In claiming that high ground, though, we can also point out to prospective students that, whatever roles they go on to play in society, the parts will come easier if they are used to playing in imaginary worlds where the characters have been crafted by wise observers of human nature and the consequences of words and actions are traced out concisely, without the static of unrelated data.
Donald Stump
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