Dear Otto and all,

 

I did not express myself clearly in my earlier post. I believe phrasebooks can be very valuable, to students as well as more experienced researchers. My only claim was that they will not put writing advisors out of a job – there will still be work left for us to do to help students become good researchers and writers.

 

John

 

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Hi All,

 

I'd like to come back to your previous posting, John. I agree that using a phrasebook does not guarantee that the writers pick the best phrase or use the terms correctly. They need feedback for that and it takes a long learning process to master academic languages. What we notice, however, is that the phrases make them aware of the options there are. They learn to look at the language they use a little closer and see what the differences might be between different expressions. What we also see when we look at recordings of writing processes is that writers are heavily revising their texts. When they chose a phrase to start a paraphraph, this does not mean that they will keep it. The phrase may be altered, moved to another place, or be deleted all together. Writing is a far more dynamic process than I ever thought.

 

I like to think of student writing not only as text production burt also as a language learning process and see phrasebooks not as a way to produce the best text possible but as a means to acquire language skills. Our students do not read much so, this is another way to make them learn.

 

Otto

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Dear All,

 

What Otto says strikes a chord with me, particularly the point “By using a phrase (or a term), student writers also learn the concept behind it and vice versa (even if they initially may miss its full meaning). Phrases should be seen as part of both worlds: the conceptual world of knowledge and the world of linguistic representation.”

 

I think it quite likely that experienced researchers who are not comfortable in English will find great value in a resource that enables them to put words to the concepts or acts they wish to perform in their writing. For students, especially BA students, however, it is often more of a problem that inappropriate language is a pointer towards inappropriate intellectual activity. They frequently use the word discuss, thinking this (roughly meaning “knock some ideas around with sources thrown in”) is what academic papers do. They use the words “highlight” and “stress” about the work of other authors to mean “I think this is important”. Frequently their purpose is to “outline”, more or less meaning “describe”.

 

At the same time as introducing students to appropriate words and phrases, we often need to help them understand that replacing “discuss” with “argue”, is not sufficient unless they also conceptually stop “discussing” and start presenting claims, supporting them with adequate evidence and providing a warrant that the evidence indeed supports the claim. The concept or activity and the word that go with it both have to be understood.

 

John

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