I've always been of the opinion that volunteers can't be processors because the one thing you must have with a processor is a contract, and the one thing you mustn't have with a volunteer is a contract, because then they stop being a volunteer. I agree with going down the common law confidentiality line. Best wishes, Paul Paul Ticher 22 Stoughton Drive North, Leicester LE5 5UB 0116 273 8191 On 26/02/2020 14:55, Palmer-Dunk, Dan wrote: > > I’d say they’re not processors and are performing their role as > members of the organisation (data controller). They are, it would > seem, steering the organisation and therefore deciding the ‘purpose > and means’ of processing personal data. > > Even though they’re not processors, one of the safeguards in respect > of security you could implement is a confidentiality agreement. This > would also serve to set out the relationships and expectations for the > avoidance of doubt. > > Dan > > *From:*This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] *On Behalf Of *Hilary Pook > *Sent:* 26 February 2020 14:14 > *To:* [log in to unmask] > *Subject:* [data-protection] Status of committee members > > This is a request about organisations that have committees as part of > their governance structure, and the status of committee members. > > I’ve been doing a bit of DP training with some of our committee chairs > and vice-chairs to stress the importance of keeping committee papers > safe and deleting/destroying them when finished with, where the papers > contain personal data. One of them has asked if they are data > processors, and therefore should we be getting them to sign some sort > of contract/data sharing agreement (they are not paid). My gut feeling > is ‘no’ but I’m struggling to say why. 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