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As a scientist myself having studied fluid mechanics during undergraduate and graduate studies, I do not understand the "need" to perform this scientific study, which, as Martin and others pointed out, ignores not only the history and the context, and the very art itself. Agree with Brigitte/David on the wonder of Van Gogh and turbulence :) On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 6:36 AM Brigitte Nerlich < [log in to unmask]> wrote: > Yep! I think David is right to stress: “it doesn’t diminish my sense of > wonder about either Van Gogh or turbulence” – BOTH! > > Brigitte > > > > *From:* Science, images and representations <[log in to unmask]> *On > Behalf Of *martin kemp > *Sent:* 23 January 2020 11:30 > *To:* [log in to unmask] > *Subject:* Re: Turbulence and Van Gogh > > > > David, > > Typical of contemporary scientists' misapplication of their modern > criteria to historic art without doing the slightest historical due > diligence (both the original paper and this one). I get this all the time > with Leonardo. > > very best, > > Martin > > > > > > On 22 Jan 2020, at 7:01 pm, David Steinman <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > > > > My postdoc spotted this paper, and I thought you might “enjoy" as an > interesting response to what was clearly perceived as an > over-interpretation of the science in art and of the scientific intuition > of artists. > > I wonder what he’d make of Hokusai (or, in Pythonese, "Lucky I didn't say > anything about the dirty knife.” :-) > > As for me, it doesn’t diminish my sense of wonder about either Van Gogh or > turbulence, and it puts me in mind of one of my favourite (ironic) quotes: > "Pedagogical simplicity is inevitably achieved at some cost of > verisimilitude.” [Holmes, in Tauber’s “Beautiful Experiments in the Life > Sciences”] > > /das. > > > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the SCIREPS list, click the following link: > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=SCIREPS&A=1 > <The midrange wavenumber spectrum of van Gogh s Starry Night does not obey > a turbulent inertial range scaling law.pdf> > > > > Martin Kemp > [log in to unmask] > Emeritus Professor of the History of Art > Trinity College, > Broad Street, Oxford, OX1 3BH > > This message and its contents is intended only for the designated > recipient(s) and should not be passed on without permission > > > > new book, with Margaret Dalivalle and Robert Simon, *Leonardo's Salvator > Mundi and the Collecting of Leonardo in the Stuart Courts*, Oxford > University Press. > > > > EXHIBITION ON SCREEN film Leonardo: The Works in cinemas worldwide from > 29th October 2019 > > > *A CONCERT AND CD FOR LEONARDO 500* > > http://leonardo.ifagiolini.com/ > > *LEONARDO DA VINCI’S CODEX LEICESTER. A NEW EDITION*, with Domenico > Laurenza, 4 vols., Oxford University Press > > > *LEONARDO BY LEONARDO. *Callaway Arts and Media > > > > *LIVING WITH LEONARDO. *Fifty Years of Sanity and Insanity in the Art > World and Beyond, Thames & Hudson > > > > *LEONARDO DA VINCI. THE 100 MILESTONES*. Sterling Books > > > > *LEONARD DE VINCI (French), *Citadelles > > > > *THE LIFE OF LEONARDO DA VINCI by GIORGIO VASARI. *Thames and Hudson > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the SCIREPS list, click the following link: > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=SCIREPS&A=1 > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please contact the sender and delete the email and > attachment. > > Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not > necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored > where permitted by law. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the SCIREPS list, click the following link: > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=SCIREPS&A=1 > -- Yogesh Goyal, PhD Schmidt Science Fellow | Personal website <https://systomicbiology.wordpress.com/> ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the SCIREPS list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=SCIREPS&A=1