Hi Jacob,

 

An additional technique to identify sodium is microPIXE, which can be used for elemental mapping. I'm not sure if the sulfur signal would be strong enough to be quantitative.

 

A ref: https://www.cell.com/structure/pdf/S0969-2126(00)88335-5.pdf

 

Hope that helps,

Sarah

 

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Director, High-Throughput Crystallization Screening Center

Research Associate Professor, Department of Biochemistry, University at Buffalo

 

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Subject: Re: Sodium Ion Binding?

 

Hi Jacob

 

Not the easiest task... Based on past experience your major issue will be the incredible abundance of sodium ions in everything.

 

So assuming you have high quality sodium free solutions and are willing to work exclusively in plastic, quartz or fused silica - here are a few thoughts:

 

1. Na-22 isotope binding. An oldie but goodie.

2. Sodium-reactive dye equilibrium (see e.g. reference I put at the end)

3. Flame or ion coupled plasma spectroscopy. Very nice to do given the marvellous sodium band.

4. Sodium selective glass electrode (requires more solution of your analyte than the other methods)

 

Overall the key component to these methods is your ability to displace the sodium with something else prior to measuring the effect of titration the ion back. Isotopic Na is easier in this regard - but at a cost...

 

Hope this helps.

 

Artem

 

https://bmcresnotes.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1756-0500-6-556

 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://clinchem.aaccjnls.org/content/clinchem/24/4/580.full.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwis5KL_vM_lAhXCmuAKHY2cAVQQFjAFegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw0Yhz23Yr_ulB85MDQspIFl&cshid=1572833723049

 

 

On Sun, Nov 3, 2019, 20:41 Keller, Jacob <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Dear Crystallographers,

 

Does anyone know of a good biophysical way to identify or quantify sodium ion binding to a protein, besides crystallography and ITC? Is this possible with SPR, perhaps? Mass spec? Gel shifts? Examples would be greatly appreciated!

 

All the best,

 

Jacob Keller

 

 

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