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As the dataset behind PastScape is dynamic (and will continue to be even though PastScape itself as a delivery mechanism is frozen) a point in time view of the records will immediately become out of date. All the terrestrial records are being integrated with those of the relevant HER and it is a condition of this transfer that the HER is on the Heritage Gateway, which will itself be improved. As a result of this 5 year project all HER’s will be on the improved Heritage Gateway and contain all the information currently on PastScape. The marine record will continue to be maintained and made available by HE replacing PastScape, and will itself be made available via the Heritage Gateway. The question of redirects from PastScape are handled will be considered as part of this project once it starts. Martin From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Andy Burnham Sent: 13 September 2019 13:30 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [HERFORUM] Pastscape due to be shut down shortly?? Hello Martin, Thanks very much for that good news, as I say Pastscape is still very much in use out here. I can understand that HE don't want to be responsible for maintaining out of date information - but it would be much preferable either to keep Pastscape up as an archive with a disclaimer saying 'Kept for Archive only', which is what the BBC do with their old pages. Alternatively/better can we request some sort of redirect is implemented based on the HOB UIDs from the old Pastscape links, eg ones of this form https://www.pastscape.org.uk/hob.aspx?hob_id=1228510 As I say we have probably several thousand of links like these to specific Pastscape pages which it would be a great shame to destroy (not to mention the web traffic you would lose) Many Thanks Andy ================================================== Our New Book: THE OLD STONES awarded *** Current Archaeology Book of the Year! *** =================================================== The Megalithic Portal http://www.megalithic.co.uk<http://www.megalithic.co.uk/> Independent, non-profit making web site and society =================================================== On Fri, 13 Sep 2019 at 09:33, Newman, Martin <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: Hi Andy, To hopefully set your mind at ease PastScape is not being shut down shortly, in the longer term it will be replaced but we are not there yet. I suspect your source is getting confused with the shutting down of the Images of England website (which has now taken place) or what is planned as part of HIAS with the transfer of the terrestrial records in the NRHE (the information resource published by PastScape) to the local HERs. This is a 5 year project that will see those terrestrial records incorporated into the HERs who will as part of the agreement make their records available via the Heritage Gateway which itself is going to be improved. The HERs are incorporating the HOB UIDs (PastScape numbers) so old references to these can be used to find the sites. The marine component of the NRHE will remain the responsibility of HE and PastScape will then be replaced by a website making this available which will also be on the Heritage Gateway. I hope that allays your fears. 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Please read our full privacy policy<https://www.historicengland.org.uk/terms/privacy-cookies/> for more information. From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>] On Behalf Of Andy Burnham Sent: 12 September 2019 19:17 To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: Pastscape due to be shut down shortly?? Hello All, I've heard word that Pastscape https://www.pastscape.org.uk is due to be shut down shortly. I've not seen any mention of this anywhere. Firstly could someone confirm this is the case, and when? Assuming so, this is very bad news for those of us who use Pastscape as the most convenient way to look up heritage information in England - the much needed equivalent of the Canmore or Coflien sites. I appreciate much of the information is replicated on local HERs but there is not (to my knowledge) currently a way to search all of these together. So for quick lookups to help answer questions like 'I think I've found a stone circle/henge/mystery feature' that we get a of queries about Pastscape is invaluable. Not to mention the thousands of web links to Pastscape from many web resources external to Historic England such as ourselves, which link profusely to information on Pastscape. All these are going to go defunct with no straightforward way to update / replace them. (This would need some sort of redirection/lookup based on the Pastscape monument ID numbers) So can I put out the first call to 'Save Pastscape!' (or an equivalent) as it is too useful to take offline completely. 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