Hi Martyn, Thanks for the article, and I can understand where they’re coming from. However, I’m also reminded that Neil Gaiman (I think), when asked how he felt about people accessing his content without paying full price for it, said that he didn’t mind – the important thing was people reading (or watching) his work. Like any creative industry, there are a few at the top making a fortune (and Gaiman is one of them), and plenty more not doing so. PLR keeps a lot of authors and content creators going. Bottom line is that a free loan might lead to a full price sale, but without that option, many authors would not get any exposure at all. Thanks, Andy McDonald. Area Manager – Widnes & Ditton Enterprise, Community & Resources Halton Borough Council Widnes Library Kingsway Education Centre 07919 173559 [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> @LibraryWidnes Currently reading: The Garden of Unearthly Delights, by Robert Rankin. From: lis-pub-libs: UK Public Libraries <[log in to unmask]> On Behalf Of MARTYN EVERETT Sent: 19 August 2019 23:54 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Library calculator Printing savings on receipts may not always result in a positive reaction as described in this article The Week in Libraries: August 16, 2019<https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/industry-news/libraries/article/80937-the-week-in-libraries-august-16-2019.html> [cid:image001.png@01D55730.2712FC20] [Text Box:] The Week in Libraries: August 16, 2019 Among the week's headlines: a library receipt kicks off a debate about the value of libraries; more media covera... Martyn On Monday, August 19, 2019, 10:04:42 AM GMT+1, Kate Lomax <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: Hi Kelly, I don't know of any UK examples of standalone calculators for library savings but the ones I've seen have been quite general (using an average cost per item - like the one linked to from the ALA Library Value Calculator<http://www.ala.org/advocacy/advleg/advocacyuniversity/toolkit/makingthecase/calculator_new>). This can be relatively straightforward to implement depending on your website/blog setup. Let me know if you'd like more info about this. I also like the way many libraries are implementing this via their LMS using the price of the item. For example, here's a guide ByWater Solutions wrote for how you can include the savings amount on the printed receipt using the Koha LMS. https://bywatersolutions.com/education/show-library-cost-savings-on-your-koha-receipt Hope this helps, let me know if you have any questions or anything. thanks, Kate -- Kate Lomax Artefacto www.artefacto.org.uk<https://www.artefacto.org.uk> @artefactors<https://www.twitter.com/artefactors> On Fri, 16 Aug 2019 at 15:52, Gallacher, Kelly (Library HQ) <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: Are there any libraries in the UK that have a library calculator on their website/blog so borrowers can use to calculate how much they have saved by borrowing from the library service? I have an example from America but I would be interested to see examples from UK libraries where this has been done. 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