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Thanks Sjors, "ignore CTF until the first peak" helps a lot! And I saw such recommendations in the tutorial after you mentioned it. Any chance you can illustrate a little bit more how this works?

QL

On Sun, Jul 21, 2019 at 4:03 PM Sjors Scheres <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Dear QL,
You could try to 'ignore CTFs until first peak' to get more classes in 2D
classification. Also, you could extract segments in larger boxes to
separate different types of filaments. Often though, we pick our filament
types separately by hand, which seems to work better than classification.
Unfortunately, amyloid reconstruction isn't yet as streamlined as
single-particle analysis. One problem is that the 3D
refinements/classifications have many local minima: a problem that is well
known in helical reconstruction in general.
HTH,
Sjors




> Hi all,
> We are an amyloid lab and just started working on cryoEM. Our own dataset
> was giving me a really hard time so I'm trying to go through the whole
> process by processing data deposited on EMPIAR. Particularly, #10230
> (Falcon B et al., Acta Neuropathol. 136 699-708 (2018)).
> I learned mostly from Relion tutorial, helical processing tutorial, Sjors'
> lecture online as well as some colleagues who do single particle. It seems
> to be not easy to repeat the literature results. For example, in 2D
> classification, I ended up with only one class (with clear beta-sheets and
> very blur edges) with T=2~8. How should I setup the parameters in this
> step? Or anything in earlier steps should be adjusted?
> Also just in general, would anyone be kind enough to share a general
> tutorial or tips for amyloid fibrils helical reconstruction? Or anywhere
> else I can find such specific helps? It would help the newcomers a lot!
> Thanks!
>
> QL
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