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Hi Robyn,
The IPNI  which ,itself states it is a dynamic resource in the introduction is a valuable tool in  global botany.  I can see that using a standardised nomenclature for all botanical research would be ideal. However it iswill always be changing as the successive volumes of Stace have over the years. (Albeit st a much slower rate)Rather than being quaint isnt Stace just a specialised flora  for a small area of the globe which as you point out provides very useful information about the plants ecology . An essential element in writing meaningful archaeobotanical reports. 
Also at the present time IPNI only appears to be a list of plant names ( this may be due to me trying to view it via my phone on a train). So it would have limitations for me trying to create a a taxa table of archaeobotanical data from sites in the British Isles. 
Basically I need to be able to put my findings in an ordered way stating clearly which nomenclature I have used to aid further readers. I find Stace provides that framework but I am aware that it has its limitations.Hence my original question.
Best wishes
Kath



On Sat, 11 May 2019 at 02:04, Robyn Veal <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Dear Sharon,

It’s a great question. Thank you! I use IPNI, the International Plant Names Index. It’s online, it’s global (and Kew is a major supporter /advisor). It has the most up to date internationally agreed nomenclature based on the latest taxonomic and other research. It also provides a lot of current and historical synonyms.

I suggest we should move away from using parochial sources.  It’s a global research community and while it’s important to pay respect to historical research and local naming conventions - we need to use nomenclature everyone in the world will understand.  Stace 2010 is well out of date for nomenclature.  2019 is good (but it’s expensive). It’s very good for ecological notes.

IPNI is the world agreed peak body. By all means supplement and amplify in discussion, local naming conventions, since they are familiar to local researchers. But we don’t want to be viewed as insular by the rest of the research fraternity. Using quaint subfamily groupings used pretty much only in the UK confuses international researchers and doesn’t enhance our international reputation. Of course, Britain is not the only guilty country here. Don’t get me started on the Maloideae.

Warm regards
Robyn Veal

University of Cambridge

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On 10 May 2019, at 9:24 pm, Sharon Cook <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Hi Kath, still using 2010 here. Apparently the 2019 edition has removed a number of plants which are no longer extant in the UK, since we are looking at assemblages from the past rather than the present it seems prudent to stay with the more complete version until it can be established whether the omissions will affect our reporting.

Sharon Cook   

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Hi,
Currently the nomenclature for identifications of plant remains I use in my archaeobotanical reports follows Stace 2010. Is anyone using the new edition 2019? Has there been any discussion/consensus regarding this in recent years?

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