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Dear Deb, I don't want to take YOUR time or any of the time of others, I just wondered if anybody in this bright list have what I search. My inquiry isn't a frivolity and I will write off list. Best regards, Ilona. *BEDE Ilona * Doctorante / PhD Student *Université Paris 1 Panthéon-Sorbonne * *UMR 8167 Orient et Méditerranée - Monde byzantin * http://univ-paris1.academia.edu/IlonaBede [log in to unmask] Fr : +33 – (0)7 62 61 90 88 *Willmanndamm 7, D-10827 Berlin * De : +49 – (0)1520 236 7868 Le 28/04/2019 à 13:20, Deb Bennett a écrit : > > OK, Ilona, I see your images of animals lying down with limb bones > sketched in. However, as I said to you before, you will have to either > create the illustration yourself or pay somebody else to do it, > because what you apparently want is something much more detailed, i.e. > essentially a 3D drawing of a horse skeleton in recumbency, with the > flesh outlines drawn on in such a manner that it is as if the flesh > were made of transparent glass. > > I was astonished at your answer to my previous offer to help you, by > the way: you refused it on the grounds that you can’t afford it, > without ever asking what I might actually have asked you to pay! Never > make assumptions! > > You also said that you wouldn’t have time, and yet Ilona, you are > asking me and all the others on this list to take OUR time to try to > dig up a fairly arcane illustration for you. This made me wonder > whether your inquiry was actually serious, or just a frivolity? > > I think it is an extremely valuable experience for any graduate > student to learn HOW to work with an illustrator. So I say again, > write to me off list if you seriously want substantial help. Cheers – > Deb Bennett > > *From:*Analysis of animal remains from archaeological sites > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] *On Behalf Of *IlonaBede > *Sent:* Sunday, April 28, 2019 2:39 AM > *To:* [log in to unmask] > *Subject:* [ZOOARCH] Lying skeletons > > Dear Zooarchers! > > Thanks to the people who answered my post. I realised that it was a > little unclear... so I explain it a bit better here: > I am looking for a representation of a kind of "bêta" anatomical > reference position of the skeleton, in flesh and in lying position > with the limbs bent and head raised. I work on buried horses which are > generally all in the same position, or at least I can restore this > identical initial position for almost each of them. The goal is to > have a reference of the "normal" position of a lying horse's skeletons > to control the "natural" character of the bones position and > articulations and see how far they have "come out" of their anatomical > position. I am very aware that this ask isn't neither common nor easy > to answer because of the high range of variability, but I believe that > it can/could exist... and help. > > I found some picture that will make my ask more clear... an maybe be > of some interest for others: > https://images.app.goo.gl/pEvwmUL2puoqzLSt6 > > Best regards, > Ilona. > > *BEDE Ilona * > Doctorante / PhD Student > > *Université Paris 1 Panthéon-Sorbonne * > *UMR 8167 Orient et Méditerranée - Monde byzantin * > http://univ-paris1.academia.edu/IlonaBede > [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> > Fr : +33 – (0)7 62 61 90 88 > > *Willmanndamm 7, D-10827 Berlin * > De : +49 – (0)1520 236 7868 > > *From:*[mailto:[log in to unmask]] *On Behalf Of > *IlonaBede > *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2019 11:16 AM > *To:* [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> > *Subject:* [ZOOARCH] laying horse skeletal conformation > > Dear Zooarchers, > I'm looking for a picture of a horse skeleton in laying > position. > Thanks a lot for your help! > Kind regards, Ilona > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the ZOOARCH list, click the following link: > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=ZOOARCH&A=1 > ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the ZOOARCH list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=ZOOARCH&A=1