In my experience in America, obstetricians come from an education and training that focuses on diagnosis and treatment of disease. That is why they are always looking for the complications in pregnancy and childbirth. We, the midwives, come from a perspective of fostering and supporting a physiological process, i.e., that which women have the inherent ability to do well. They are 2 different perspectives that I think are mutually exclusive, except in the hands of individuals who understand them and are able to go back and forth depending on the needs of the women. Given the dominant medical model here in the US, that I think is being adopted in many countries, it is a constant challenge to remain true to the midwifery model of care. And I think Jane presented the reality of our times re populism. Pat On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 10:27 AM Margaret Dunlea <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Dear Colleagues, > In a recent submission to the Irish Government's Health Committee on > progress regarding implementation of the first National Maternity Strategy > in 2016, a senior obstetrician, representing the Irish Institute of > Obstetrics and Gynaecology suggested that he was a midwife as well as an > obstetrician, and adding insult to injury, he said that he was proud of > it. > > Do you share my outrage with this statement? Do obstetricians elsewhere > share this view? What does this mean for working collaboratively? > > I would appreciate your views on tackling this. > > Kind Regards, > > Margaret > > Margaret Dunlea > Assistant Professor in Midwifery > SF, JS and SS Course Coordinator - Midwifery > School of Nursing and Midwifery > Trinity College Dublin > 24 D'Olier Street, Dublin 2 > Ireland > 0872241798 > 01-8964080 > > Ollamh Cúnta an Chnáimhseachais > > Comhordaitheoir Cúrsaí Chlár Fochéime na Dara Bliana, na Tríú Bliana agus > na Ceathrú Bliana > > Scoil an Altranais agus an Chnáimhseachais > > Coláiste Na Tríonóide, Baile Átha Cliath > > 24 Sráid D’Olier > > Baile Átha Cliath 2 > Éire > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MIDWIFERY-RESEARCH list, click the following link: > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=MIDWIFERY-RESEARCH&A=1 > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.jiscmail.ac.uk_cgi-2Dbin_webadmin-3FSUBED1-3DMIDWIFERY-2DRESEARCH-26A-3D1&d=DwMFaQ&c=slrrB7dE8n7gBJbeO0g-IQ&r=-J1OUHafr7BSZ3jmXk6aSw&m=yo33eesTxi0ykS1fz2DDfkIrhLKRVFjOIH1pytkNA0U&s=01xGR8yPuLfEstlkG1q065AnCPsK-18yH97A5j04JY4&e=> > -- Patricia Burkhardt, LM, CM (r), DrPH, FACNM Member, New York State Association of Licensed Midwives (NYSALM) New York University Adjunct Clinical Associate Professor 718 644-8963 (Cell) ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MIDWIFERY-RESEARCH list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=MIDWIFERY-RESEARCH&A=1