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We have around 1900 items flagged in the Book Metadata Refresh as not successfully matching.

While I agree that some of these may be unpublished bookmarks held on academic profiles, I still want them mapping correctly where possible, for informing Academics of library stock/availability, this linked data might influence decisions to publish such bookmarks to active lists?

Many of my 1900 unlinked books in TARL will successfully link to standard publisher-provided marc records in our library catalogue with further development work at Talis’ end, and for those which don’t, we are left with a useful, and much more accurate not in stock report to feed acquisitions workflows.

Thoughts?

Joe

From: David Steedman <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: 04 April 2019 09:27
To: [log in to unmask]; Joseph Munzer <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: book metadata refresh

We have about that amount of items not linked to the catalogue due to this issue (hundreds).

I think it’s also important to distinguish between items in the All Items report with no LCN present and the number in the Book Metadata Refresh notification, because (do correct me I’m wrong, Zena), the book metadata refresh also tries to link everything in all users’ most recent bookmarks as well as items in the live tenancy in all items. So when I get a book metadata refresh saying 3000 odd items not linked to the catalogue and have a mini heart attack, I can take a little solace that a lot of these can’t be seen by students.

I don’t know if it’s possible for Talis have an option available to correct discrepancies in legacy ISBNs (and also ISSNs) across a resource in a tenancy both bookmarked and yet-to-be-bookmarked (if it would be possible to set bookmarking rules across all university tenancies as Joe suggests). It could save work for libraries as and when academics decide to add them to their lists.

David Steedman
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From: Talis Aspire Users <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of Joseph Munzer <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: 04 April 2019 09:06:28
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: book metadata refresh

Thanks Zena. Perhaps you could perform some analysis on a large range of ISBNs in your system (across multiple tenancies) then come up with a regular expression to capture all variations?

To the community; do many other institutions have hundreds (or more) books with an ISBN in Aspire, which are not linked to your library catalogue after performing Book Metadata Refresh?

I wonder how many other customers might benefit from further development work in this area?

Joe

From: Zena Amos <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: 03 April 2019 16:56
To: Joseph Munzer <[log in to unmask]>
Cc: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: book metadata refresh

Hi Joseph,

I understand we have an open support case on this, this is still open and under analysis by myself. The suggestion that you could update your MARC records in the short term was a workaround you could do, but we understand your reasons for not wanting to do this as you have explained these are imported records.

We already clean the ISBNs that we use to look up in your catalogue, but the lookup is not matching as the ISBN in the record has extra characters which are not expected, so we are being cautious and not taking that as a match.

Your suggestion of a character limit seems sensible and in line with our thinking, however, it will not solve all, but may not prove to be 100% reliable as we are dealing with not only ISBN-10 and ISBN-13 but also included hyphens, and potentially characters preceding the ISBN for instance brackets, so in those scenarios we may not get a match and a lookup by LCN may have to be manually done.

I shall respond on the open support case advising the above and look to schedule an improvement in line with other priorities.

However, if you wish to discuss further I'm happy to pick up via a call or come and visit me at the Talis stand at Talis Insight Europe 2019.

Kind regards

Zena Amos

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On Wed, 3 Apr 2019 at 12:03, Joseph Munzer <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Hi all,

We have a significant number of books in Talis Aspire which are not succeeding to match to our library catalogue records via ISBN lookup (Book Metadata Refresh).

Raising this via Support, we have been asked to change bibliographic data in our library catalogue records in order to get the Book Metadata Refresh tool to perform successful matches. May I ask whether other customers have been asked to do the same, and if so, have you carried out this work?

To provide specific details, many of the eBooks we purchase via our Acquisitions workflows contain extraneous information appended to the end of the 020$a field, for example, an ISBN field in a marc record could look like:

020 ‡a9780702051333 (Proquest Ebook Central)

When Talis Aspire perform their lookup on our tenancy, it fails due to this highlighted extra information. (we are CAPITA LMS customers)

I’m always reluctant to modify our local data to fit with a 3^rd party, as such systems come and go over time. How have other customers got around this? Do you ask marc record suppliers to remove these extra characters for you? Does this issue not occur for your tenancy?

I’d like to see Talis Aspires’ lookup work to some character limit logic (10-13 digit?)

Any thoughts or advice would be greatly appreciated,

Joe

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