I don't think making this GDOR complient is that hard. It's all pretty well defined what you store (everything), where you store it, and why.

There are some philosophical problems with allowing users to have their data deleted. Assuming the copy is good enough to reproducing the experiment. Deleting a copy would constitute murder. This means that the backups have to be stored in a rather libertarian "state" like Sealand or Somalia.

Keeping that in mind, perrhaps this sort of backup should first be implemented with the future African synchrotron.

Cheers,

Robbie

On 1 Apr 2019 07:46, "[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

While this may sound absurd, the principle of incremental backups can help out a great deal here. Like Apple’s Time Machine, all we need to do is store a copy of the things which have changed rather than the entire facility, which reduces the burden by at least a few orders of magnitude. Such efficiency savings will I am sure be of great interest in this project. Surely though we could save a copy of the experimental Eigenstate before the experiment too, offering the option of going back and having another go - every experimentalists dream!

I do however take issue with your hypothesis that only the experimental equipment need be backed up - surely the experimenters also need to be archived, to allow the question “What were you thinking??” to be accurately answered when the reviewer’s questions come back. Unfortunately due to quantum entanglement issues this would probably require archiving the mind-state of dozens of people every time you hit “go” with the associated data protection issues - I for one would not like to fill in the GDPR section of that EU application :-)

Anyhow, best of luck with your application,

Graeme

On 1 Apr 2019, at 04:59, Petr Kolenko <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:

Dear colleagues,
We all are very happy about the storage of raw crystallographic datasets. But, is it really enough? No! Can we do better? Yes, of course!
The problem is that the crystal after the measurement is usually burned. It does not make sense to store them any more. But, in order to maximize reproducibility and increase the reliability of all our results, the committee of the Czech and Slovak Crystallographic Association has decided to force our researchers to back up the whole experimental station (including synchrotrons and their storage rings) after each crystal, each use. Storage of synchrotrons under liquid nitrogen is welcomed, but not necessary, yet. For the next decade, in-house storage of complete XFELs is expected (EU project Horizon 2030, proposal EC.2030.14.1.CZ.004).
Best regards,
Petr

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