That description of the general strategy for platform adoptions was interesting, but didn't answer the question of what actual change occurred in the specific case of Flickr.

Here, decisions were made that affected the future of 1/4 of the digital commons without CC's input -- signaled by the way CC wasn't aware that the initial changes (that have since been rolled back) were put in place last year. This surely was not a case of waiting around for a positive decision to be made, it was more one of trying to convince Flickr to roll back negative (deletion, limited uploading) updates to their platform.

So, what changed their minds?

If we cannot be transparent about what the selling point was for them -- specifically the two MacAskill folks and not an unnamed champion within the organization -- then the commons can be put at risk (again) just as easily as it was "saved".

BTW the Flickr upload page still is still blocking new uploads without a Pro account as of this morning, unless there is a special way to upload CC/PD content that isn't well advertised.

Appreciate your thoughtful clarification here.

On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 2:45 PM Cable Green <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Good question. The answer is nuanced.

 

Creative Commons works with large and small platforms all over the world, in many sectors of society including media platforms, open music archives, museums, OER producers and repositories, OA journals, Wikimedia properties, public television and radio, and more. https://creativecommons.org/about/platform

 

We maintain a CC Platform Toolkit to make it easier for platforms to integrate CC into their tools so people can easily add a CC license to their work, filter their search by license, and download CC licensed files. We also work with platforms to adjust their terms of service to ensure their TOS does not remove permissions that the licenses grant. https://creativecommons.org/platform/toolkit

 

Sometimes getting a platform to “Yes” on freely hosting CC license content is quick; sometimes it takes years. This one took years: https://creativecommons.org/2017/02/07/met-announcement

 

Also important is finding the right person in the organization at the right time. There is usually a champion inside every organization, the trick is finding the right person and empowering them with persuasive arguments, language and support so they can be successful open advocates inside their organization / platform.

 

Persuading a platform to host openly licensed content is usually a mix of commons values and the values of the platform / organization. For example, when working with a museum, we often look to museum’s mission which typically emphasize providing broad access, to the public, to their collections. When working with the Rijksmuseum in the Netherlands to open their collection, their mission was key: “The Rijksmuseum links individuals with art and history.”  Once (some of) their works were placed into the public domain using CC0 (CC’s public domain dedication) – this amazing project was possible: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IX5PYEkFr8o  

In the case of Flickr, none of our arguments or points change recently. It just took some time for the organization, and the people in it, to make their decision. Our job was / is stay engaged, be supportive, and to listen to the needs of the platform – so they can get to “Yes.”

 

CC’s values are grounded (and can be read) in our 2016-2020 strategy (site / strategy).

 

I hope this is helpful.

 

Good weekend everyone,

Cable

 

 

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On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 1:09 PM Billy Meinke <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

With all due respect, what changed to allow the continued uploading/sharing of CC licensed and PD works on Flickr?

Asking primarily so that similar strategies for improving relations with the platforms across the commons can be shared and learned from.

As is, it seems like a closed door conversation happened and it's not clear what leverage points were used or contributor value communicated to the platform to encourage them to withdraw their plans to clamp down on the commons.

On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 8:08 AM Cable Green <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Greetings Open Education Friends:

Good news regarding Creative Commons licensed images on Flickr.

https://creativecommons.org/2019/03/08/flickr-announcement

Thank you for spreading the word through your networks.

Cable

Cable Green

Director of Open Education

Creative Commons

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