I agree Anne; and partnership working with organisations I think is key, especially with those that have in house OH provision for staff. Case management for those on sick leave would be a united approach and one that would hopefully in the longer term benefit all, all round.

Tracie Mckelvie
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On 10 Mar 2019, at 16:42, "[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask] wrote:

Re: [OCC-HEALTH] Being launched today Good point, but it doesn't have to be a F/T post. Could even be a nurse practitioner who is dual qualified.
Anne


On 10/03/2019, 13:27, "piernicki8" <[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Given that GP practices are individual practices will they want to fund on OH Nurse to spend time in their practice? Yet again it's down to central funding/ commisioning of services.
Jean



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From: elaine hunt <[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]>
Date: 10/03/2019  12:54  (GMT+00:00)
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Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] Being launng ched today

I agree
It is alarming to see still mostly us older OHa’s and not enough younger ones joining the discipline.

Someone e I have recruited recently said she had NO OH I put on her nursing course which was only in 2015!
It’s no wonder more aren’t coming Into OH .  

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On 10 Mar 2019, at 11:03, Lynda Bruce <[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Hi all,

In my opinion if there were only enough OH Nurses every GP practice could happily have several on board to deal with OH advice and fit notes .

However with a diminishing number of OH Nurses - about 3,500 as SpCPHN - OH on the NMC register( maybe less)  plus ??? who knows how many in practice with  good relevant qualifications in OH and some 12,000 GP practices ...I think .... in the UK this is just not feasible at present.

My numbers are guesstimates happy to be corrected

We should all look to encourage more nurses to become OH practitioners - a wonderful happy career helping people to stay in and return to work and keeping them safe at work!

Sunday lecture over.. sorry

Kind regards to all

Lynda Bruce

Aberdeen


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From: tracie morris <[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Sat, 9 Mar 2019 22:38
Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] Being launched today

Totally agree Deb!!

I have said this for many years; there’s such obvious benefits having an OHA attached to a GP practise, as are the benefits for partnership working between us and GPs/PNs if OHAs are not directly employed by / attached to the surgery.

I would at some point like to arrange an event local to me for GPs to promote and discuss partnership working when dealing with their patients / our employees.....

Tracie

Tracie Mckelvie
Mob: 07975 924205

On 9 Mar 2019, at 17:05, Deborah Caspi <[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Hi all

To add a question to this topic, at the H&WB at Work conference I heard an excellent OT speaking about a pilot, with OTs working in primary care (in GP practices), assessing and advising on fitness to work.

Brilliant scheme, but I can't help thinking that as a profession, we're missing a trick! As specialist OHA/N practitioners, I think we could and should be working alongside GPs too.

Who agrees or disagrees with me?

Deb Caspi

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Yea would think OH should be first thought, also
Access to Work ( AtW) who also support mental health and is very good

MIND

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On 5 Mar 2019, at 12:19, Lindsey Hall <[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Hi all
 
Am I missing something or does the checklist not say anything about:
  1. Asking if the patient has an occupational health service?
  2. If they do, suggesting they get a referral or seek the involvement of this service?

I admit I have only read the checklist but that is probably the limit of what most others will read. We know a lot don’t have access to OH but a lot do and surely the first answer to the question “How can I best help my patients with work issues given that I am not trained in occupational health?” is “Do you have an Occupational Health Service and if you do, go and talk to them or get your manager to talk to them?

Thanks
 
Lindsey
 
 
From: [log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]> On Behalf Of Nick Pahl
Sent: 05 March 2019 09:34
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“Talking Work: A guide for Doctors discussing work and work modifications with patients”  see:
 https://www.councilforworkandhealth.org.uk/work-modifications/ <https://www.councilforworkandhealth.org.uk/work-modifications/>
 Nick Pahl | CEO
Society of Occupational Medicine | 20 Little Britain
| London | EC1A 7DH Tel: 0203 478 1047

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