Thanks, I see your point Sam. What seems to be missing is a simple, lightweight site option for all the grid services needed to interface to a local batch system. VAIB is a great solution except that we still want a local batch system. I guess most sites need that? I'm not clear what GridPP is recommending, because I thought it was VAIB. ________________________________ From: Testbed Support for GridPP member institutes <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of Sam Skipsey <[log in to unmask]> Sent: 12 February 2019 09:54 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: VAC with VM condor VM to support local batch jobs? So, my belief was that the entire point of VAC (originally) was to avoid needing a local batch system if you just want to support Grid jobs [ that is, that the VAC vms would precisely not support local job scheduling, because you can simplify a local site if all the "scheduling" happens at the remote end - in, for example, a DIRAC instance, or other VO-owned job-submission-to-pilots framework]. In general, I've always argued that if you have a need to support local users and run jobs locally, this justifies having an actual batch system. Sam On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 at 10:40, George, Simon <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > And if not, how else do VAC sites make their resources available to local users? > > ________________________________ > From: Testbed Support for GridPP member institutes <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of George, Simon <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: 04 February 2019 10:38 > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: VAC with VM condor VM to support local batch jobs? > > I had no answers to this, so can I just check that this means literally no-one has tried or thought about this? > Thanks, > Simon > > ________________________________ > From: George, Simon > Sent: 28 January 2019 11:07 > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: VAC with VM condor VM to support local batch jobs? > > > I'd like to know if anyone who runs VAC has tried using the VMcondor VM to get local batch jobs onto their VAC nodes? > > Or if not are you thinking about it? > > Thanks, > > Simon > > > ________________________________ > > To unsubscribe from the TB-SUPPORT list, click the following link: > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=TB-SUPPORT&A=1 > > > ________________________________ > > To unsubscribe from the TB-SUPPORT list, click the following link: > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=TB-SUPPORT&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the TB-SUPPORT list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=TB-SUPPORT&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the TB-SUPPORT list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=TB-SUPPORT&A=1