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I did read the blog Laura, and I thought it was carefully balanced. My concern is that there is increasing pressure from some lobby groups to remove the word ‘woman’ from all material and debates about pregnancy and birth. Indeed, Canadian midwives and formal documents refer to ‘pregnant people’ now, I think. I think there are serious implications of this in terms of rendering women invisible, and this really worries me in a broader political sense – I think we have to really avoid the risk that exercising the rights of one group has the consequence of denying the rights of another group. Indeed, there are transgender women who are proud to be women and want to be known as such. So I think this is part of a wider debate, that is, at the root, as I think we are all saying, about individualising our language and behaviour so that we can maximise recognition of all. I think that is what you are saying, too? All the best Soo From: Laura Godfrey-Isaacs <[log in to unmask]> Sent: 10 February 2019 17:52 To: Soo Downe <School of Community Health & Midwifery> <[log in to unmask]> Cc: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Gender inclusive language in Maternity Hi Soo, I never suggested removing the use of women or breastfeeding in the blog, but to use gender inclusive language as additions I.e women and pregnant people as an example. If there is no use of inclusive language then the growing population of gender non-confirming people, feel excluded and not acknowledged Let me know what you think if you read the blog? Thanks Best wishes Laura Sent from my iPhone On 10 Feb 2019, at 17:20, Soo Downe <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: Interesting proposal Laura: I think nursing has interesting connotations, but they might not suit all. I also agree with others that not using the term breastfeeding (or indeed pregnant woman or whatever) undermines years of struggle for certain groups of people: and not least the vast majority of the pregnant population, who feel pride in their identity as a pregnant woman, and who would like their breasts to be acknowledged as a means of feeding and nuturing their infant. As ever in these kinds of debates surely the most important thing is to ask each individual what terminology works for them, and not to insist on any specific term to cover everyone? All the best Soo All the best Soo ________________________________ From: A forum for discussion on midwifery and reproductive health research. <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> on behalf of Laura Godfrey-Isaacs <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 4:35 PM To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Gender inclusive language in Maternity Consulting with a Trans Man about this it is clear that ‘breasts’ are some of the parts of the body that are at odds with their identified gender, therefore breastfeeding is also associated with the female gender in a way which is not acceptable. Tans Men have chest or top surgery to remove breasts, and if they retain breasts may bind them so that they are not visible. Perhaps nursing is also a good more neutral term. 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