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Yes, trigger mapping is one way of showing potential. Tracy Matthews Archaeologist Historic Environment Team Winchester City Council Colebrook Street Winchester SO23 9LJ 01962 848380 [wcc_logo_rgb_216-EmailSig] www.winchester.gov.uk<http://www.winchester.gov.uk/> www.visitwinchester.co.uk<http://www.visitwinchester.co.uk/> [Facebook_EmailSig]<https://www.facebook.com/WinchesterCity> [Twitter_EmailSig] <https://twitter.com/WinchesterCity?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor> From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Val Turner Sent: 12 February 2019 10:13 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Creating Polygons We too have manuals which were created when we were using V4 of HBSMR. As I understand it V5, which we are currently going over to, will change some of that. We polygonised site extent Planners then use these as trigger maps for consultations – it is working really well. We then make archaeological decisions about where unknown archaeology lies – that’s our job not the job of the Planners. So I would disagree with Tracey Dr Val Turner Shetland Regional Archaeologist Shetland Amenity Trust, Garthspool, Lerwick, Shetland, ZE1 0NY Tel: (01595) 694688 www.shetlandamenity.org<http://scanmail.trustwave.com/?c=6600&d=qpzi3D8qNIFHwWfR7y1DmJiBmRjF9Hwu6bLNj8zK2w&s=658&u=http%3a%2f%2fwww%2eshetlandamenity%2eorg> The Shetland Amenity Trust is a registered Scottish charity, No: SC017505 From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Tracy Matthews Sent: 12 February 2019 10:06 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Creating Polygons Just a reminder of one of the primary purposes of HERs which is to aid planning decisions - so it is important that potential extents are mapped not just known extents. 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But being reminded of it helps focus my thoughts – I think what I was trying to get at is the difference between known extents, potential and discovery polygons. Though I think Discovery polygons is a bit of a weird one – I get it, but am not sure it would be a priority for us. Keith – could you send me the manuals please? Others – what I was trying to ask is related to what SHED got at – are you polygonising potential, or only known extents? Or both eg the suspected route of a Roman road as well as the bits where is known to exist, for example? thanks best wishes Nick Boldrini Historic Environment Record Officer Archaeology Section Tel: 03000 267008 From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> On Behalf Of Nicholson, Andrew Sent: 11 February 2019 16:55 To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Creating Polygons Hi Nick, I know you’re in a different country 😉 but up here the SHED scheme has been looking at polygonization for some time. We have an understanding that HES record Known Site Extent Polygons (Middleton 2015), but that Local Authorities also need to record areas of known potential, defined as an Area of Archaeological Interest: “4.1 An Area of Archaeological Interest polygon defines the limits of known upstanding and prospected remains, and the extrapolation of that information to assess the potential fuller extent of a heritage asset. The polygon will be created based primarily on sources and professional judgement. Area of Archaeological Interest polygons should include a buffer and should be plotted against the largest map scale available. The shape of the polygon does not define the limit of the known extent, but rather includes it within the larger polygon.” See http://smrforum-scotland.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/SHED-Technical-spec-2_Area-of-Archaeological-Interest_2017_V2.2.pdf<http://scanmail.trustwave.com/?c=6600&d=qpzi3D8qNIFHwWfR7y1DmJiBmRjF9Hwu6bzCiMic2Q&s=658&u=http%3a%2f%2fsmrforum-scotland%2eorg%2euk%2fwp-content%2fuploads%2f2016%2f11%2fSHED-Technical-spec-2%5fArea-of-Archaeological-Interest%5f2017%5fV2%2e2%2epdf> The document contains links to other works undertaken on this. 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The playing phase has thrown up some things to consider, and previous experience means I am aware of some others. I am aware of various guidance on this (eg MIDAS etc) , but has anyone actually written a manual on what they polygonise (and as importantly what they don’t) and why they made those distinctions, they would be willing to share so I can benefit from previous experience/pinch all your good ideas? 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