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I agree. We have encountered refinement problems similar to those Ed
describes for models with mixtures of modified cysteine species, which is
a fairly common occurrence.
Best regards,
Mark

Mark A. Wilson
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Department of Biochemistry/Redox Biology Center
University of Nebraska
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On 2/6/19, 11:19 AM, "CCP4 bulletin board on behalf of Palm, Gottfried"
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>The situation might not be so rare, if you consider 50% Lys and 50%
>Acetyl-Lys or other post-translational modifications.
>
>Gottfried
>
>On Wednesday, 06-02-2019 at 18:05 Diana Tomchick wrote:
>
>If you have the odd case where one residue (of the same number in the
>polypeptide chain) is a Leu and the alternative residue is a Phe, then it
>would be ALEU and BPHE, both residues would have the same residue number,
>and reset the occupancies to fractions
> that sum to 1.0.
>
>
>Diana
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>On Feb 6, 2019, at 1:36 AM,
>[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>Dear Edwin,
> 
>I do not know whether your question has been answered already, but the
>answer is simple: you have to define alternative conformations. Easiest
>is to generate
> them in coot with the “add alternate conformation” option in the right
>panel. You may have to delete the original unlabeled alternative
>conformation first though.
>Alternatively, if you want to keep the original coordinates, or if the
>alternative residue is different: say a Leu versus a Phe you can open the
>pdb file with
> an editor and generate the alternative conformation yourself:
>One of the residues gets an “A” in front of the residue name, e.g. ALEU,
>and the alternative residue a “B”, say BLEU. You also have to reset the
>occupancies to
> 0.5 for both conformations (or different fractions which add up to one).
> 
>Good luck!
>Herman
> 
>Von: CCP4 bulletin board
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Im Auftrag von Edwin
> Pozharski
>Gesendet: Montag, 4. Februar 2019 22:35
>An: [log in to unmask]
>Betreff: [EXTERNAL] [ccp4bb] refmac same residue different names
> 
>Belated happy 2019, everyone.
> 
>
>For whatever obscure reason, I need to refine a model that has two
>different residue types as alternate conformers with the same residue ID.
> Presented with a pdb file that has such feature, Refmac fails saying this
>
> 
>
>
> ERROR: in chain A residue: 443
>        different residues have the same number
>
>There is an error in the input coordinate file
>At least one the chains has 2 residues with the same number
>Check above to see error
>===> Error: Problem with coordinate file
>
>
>
> 
>
>There are several ways of getting around this I can think of.  Perhaps
>duplicate chain with strict NCS for all but the residue in question could
>work.  Perhaps adding this residue as two separate chains and then adding
>enough LINK records to keep things in
> place could.  Either solution here is inelegant and requires reformating
>pdb file back to sanity prior to deposition.
>
> 
>
>Is there some way to allow different geometries for alternate conformers
>that is native to Refmac?
>
> 
>
>Cheers,
>
> 
>
>Ed.
>
> 
>
>PS.  I know that phenix.refine takes the mixed name pdb file straight up.
> I still want to be able to refine such structure with refmac (and
>buster, actually, but that's a question I already asked in the
>appropriate forum.
>
> 
>
>
>Edwin Pozharski, PhD, Assistant Professor
>University of Maryland, Baltimore
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