Dear Stef, You could use ImCalc to compute linear combinations of your within-subjects images. Otherwise, as you mention, you could obtain the same images from a GLM, even if inefficiently: enter all of your images in a GLM where the design matrix is the identity matrix (e.g. a one-way ANOVA with one image per cell, assuming sphericity) and use contrasts to create the images of interest. Best regards, Guillaume. On 04/01/2019 09:50, Stef Meliss wrote: > Dear Guillaume, > > > > I have a (very basic) follow up question. > > > > I would like to perform VBM analysis in a 2(Group: Experimental vs > Control) x 2 (Time point: pre vs post) mixed design. How do I specify > the first level in the context of VBM? Would I simply set up a t-test > containing the images for each time point separately for each subject > and then specify the contrasts as described? Or should I use the fMRI > First Level specification to do that? > > > > Many thanks in advance, > > Stef > > > > *From: *"SPM (Statistical Parametric Mapping)" <[log in to unmask]> on > behalf of "Flandin, Guillaume" <[log in to unmask]> > *Reply-To: *"Flandin, Guillaume" <[log in to unmask]> > *Date: *Tuesday, 4 December 2018 at 17:51 > *To: *"[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]> > *Subject: *Re: [SPM] Flexible factorial design > > > > Dear Geneviève, > > > > The document mentioned by the reviewer is actually published as a > > chapter of the SPM book. I also list further references that you might > > find useful. > > > > Penny, W. & Henson, R.N. (2006). Analysis of Variance. In K. Friston, J. > > Ashburner, S. Kiebel, T. Nichols, and W. Penny (Eds), Statistical > > Parametric Mapping: The analysis of functional brain images. Elsevier, > > London, 2006.pp. 166-177. > > http://www.mrc-cbu.cam.ac.uk//personal/rik.henson/personal/PennyHenson_SPM_06b.pdf > <http://www.mrc-cbu.cam.ac.uk/personal/rik.henson/personal/PennyHenson_SPM_06b.pdf> > > > > Henson, R.N (2015) Analysis of Variance (ANOVA). In: Arthur W. Toga, > > editor. Brain Mapping: An Encyclopedic Reference, vol. 1, pp. 477-481. > > Academic Press: Elsevier. > > http://www.mrc-cbu.cam.ac.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Henson_EN_15_ANOVA.pdf > > > > Friston, K.J. et al (2002) Classical and Bayesian Inference in > > Neuroimaging: Applications. NeuroImage. 16:484-512. > > https://doi.org/10.1006/nimg.2002.1091 > > > > McFarquhar, M. (2018, April 10). Modelling group-level repeated measures > > of neuroimaging data using the univariate general linear model. > > https://doi.org/10.31234/osf.io/a5469 > > > > Flexible factorial design is indeed SPM terminology and refers to an > > option in the interface to specify the design matrix (and non-sphericity > > assumptions) of a GLM. > > Instructions for a 2x2 mixed ANOVA are given here: > > https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/SPM/Group_Analysis > > > > Best wishes, > > Guillaume. > > > > On 22/11/2018 11:49, Genevieve Allaire-Duquette wrote: > > Hi, > > I recently submitted a manuscript where I used a "random effects > flexible-factorial design" with one within-subject and one > between-subject factor (2X2) in SPM8. > > One reviewer criticized the approach (see below) and I'd like to > know if there is some relevant literature I could use to explain the > model better. > > Many thanks, > > Geneviève Allaire-D. > > * > > The use of "random effects flexible-factorial" is not given a > published citation so one looks for supporting literature. The SPM8 > manual only describes this modeling nonstatistically, in section > 10.2.8. Henson and Penny's Technical Report (2003? 2005?) > (https://www.fil.ion.ucl.ac.uk/~wpenny/publications/rik_anova.pdf) > does not make any note of the flexible-factorial concept, and where > it is available on the web it seems not to be elucidated in detail. > > No other software product appears to use the phrase, and it is not > in common parlance. Thus, it will have to be explained to the > readership in much finer detail to be interpretable here. > > Moreover, a recent critique by Chen et al (Neuroimage > 2014, https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4121851/) shows > that SPM is hindered by serious limitations and can readily > overestimate significance. > > > > -- > > Guillaume Flandin, PhD > > Wellcome Centre for Human Neuroimaging > > UCL Queen Square Institute of Neurology > > London WC1N 3BG > > > -- Guillaume Flandin, PhD Wellcome Centre for Human Neuroimaging UCL Queen Square Institute of Neurology London WC1N 3BG