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thanks all. I recon I have the ESRF data sorted.. but Daresbury.. am I right in assuming MARCCD or are we going back as far as image plate? here is the image header Harry what do you think HEADER_BYTES= 512; DIM=2; BYTE_ORDER=little_endian; TYPE=unsigned_short; PIXEL_SIZE=0.08160; BIN=none; ADC=slow; DETECTOR_SN=421; DATE=Wed Apr 13 17:59:22 2005; TIME=20.00; DISTANCE=125.000; OSC_RANGE=1.000; PHI=7.000; OSC_START=7.000; AXIS=phi; WAVELENGTH=1.48800; BEAM_CENTER_X=94.700; BEAM_CENTER_Y=96.400; UNIF_PED=1500; SIZE1=2304; SIZE2=2304; CCD_IMAGE_SATURATION=65535; } -----Original Message----- From: Dean Derbyshire Sent: den 31 januari 2019 10:50 To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>; 'Luca Jovine' <[log in to unmask]> Subject: RE: [ccp4bb] old data ok may have lied.. not just 1 dataset i note. Daresbury 14-1 on 19th April 2005. (I'm assuming MAR image plate but!) ESRF ID23-1 on 4th September 2007. ESRF ID23-1 on 8th November 2007. ESRF ID23-1 on 25th June 2008. ESRF ID23-1 on 11th February2010. I will post the headers in a sec :) -----Original Message----- From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: den 31 januari 2019 10:42 To: Dean Derbyshire <[log in to unmask]> Cc: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] old data Hi Dean Usually there is a serial number buried somewhere in the header - many are text headers though some have TIFF format binary headers. Often a timestamp as well though this is less common From there biosync may help e.g. http://biosync.sbkb.org/beamlineupdatehistory.jsp?region=european&synch_id=esrf&bmln_name=BM14&height=400&width=600 (the list of ESRF MX beamlines is short so should not be too painful) Knowing the format, filename you can probably pin it down or if you share a little more info someone on the BB will know All the best Graeme On 31 Jan 2019, at 09:38, Dean Derbyshire <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: maybe a silly question it there a data base or other way to tell what detector was used to collect historic data. Image header isn’t hugely helpful ESRF is all I know for the source but I’d like to know what the detector was at the time… - I’m talking 2005-2010 Dean Derbyshire Principal Scientist Protein Crystallography [X] Box 1086 SE-141 22 Huddinge SWEDEN Visit: Lunastigen 7 Direct: +46 8 54683219 Mobile: +46731251723 www.medivir.com<http://www.medivir.com/> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- This transmission is intended for the person to whom or the entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, please be notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify us immediately. Thank you for your cooperation. ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 -- This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential, copyright and or privileged material, and are for the use of the intended addressee only. If you are not the intended addressee or an authorised recipient of the addressee please notify us of receipt by returning the e-mail and do not use, copy, retain, distribute or disclose the information in or attached to the e-mail. Any opinions expressed within this e-mail are those of the individual and not necessarily of Diamond Light Source Ltd. Diamond Light Source Ltd. cannot guarantee that this e-mail or any attachments are free from viruses and we cannot accept liability for any damage which you may sustain as a result of software viruses which may be transmitted in or with the message. Diamond Light Source Limited (company no. 4375679). Registered in England and Wales with its registered office at Diamond House, Harwell Science and Innovation Campus, Didcot, Oxfordshire, OX11 0DE, United Kingdom ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1