Sorry should have copied to the list.

 

 

 

Hi Zena

 

I think sometimes we assume too much knowledge.  I was once asked by an Engineering Tutor to do a session for his students on extracting information from a book and I combined this with referencing books.  It was a part time course with a wide age-group.

 

I explained that the official title and publisher are on the title page, not the cover.

Why author surname is first (alphabetical order, and authority)

The difference between editions and reprints

That the publisher’s name and location are important – and why, what does this tell the reader – it isn’t obvious

That the printer’s name and location are not important

 

I have also deconstructed journal references in a similar way. 

 

I also think that constructing a few references from scratch does help learning where copying others doesn’t have the same impact.

 

A great tutorial for this if you use Harvard is this one (Yes, even the engineers liked it!) http://library.northampton.ac.uk/liberation/ref/cat.php I’m happy to send you my (very old) slides too if you are interested.

 

 

 

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Hi all,

 

Is now a good time to talk about referencing??

 

We are thinking about redesigning our referencing sessions, and I feel like I am missing something.  We have Cite Them Right, so I feel like students should just be able to reference correctly. They don’t need to LEARN how to do it, they just need to COPY the examples/formulas, right?  But according to multiple lecturers, they’re still getting something wrong: what is it??

 

I plan to meet with some lecturers to discuss in the new year, but in the meantime, I’d be interested to know:

 

1)      What do you cover in your referencing sessions?

 

2)      What questions are you asked repeatedly? What explanations do you give??

 

3)      Have you found successful ways to make the sessions more interactive?

 

Thanks and Happy hols

 

Zena

 

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