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All MTZ (and map) files from the very beginning had an architecture-dependent 'machine-stamp' in the header which *should* cause the read routines to do the necessary conversions if needed (i.e. where the writing & reading machine formats differ).  This was absolutely necessary in the days when we had a goodly mix of formats (VAX, Convex, Cray, SGI, IBM mainframe, IBM PC, Mac ...).  Now pretty well everything is Intel or compatible, i.e. little-endian IEEE format, so this functionality hasn't been real-world tested for aeons and it's possible in the meantime that it's fallen into disrepair.

Cheers

-- Ian
  

On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 at 18:57, Ethan A Merritt <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
On Friday, November 9, 2018 9:12:36 AM PST Robert Esnouf wrote:
>
> Without checking further, there is a "dd" option for swapping big-endian to little-endian... swab. This may simply be the issue...

DEC computers used a different floating point format.
Swapping endian-ness would be sufficient, although it might be required in addition.

        Ethan


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> The output of od -x may help decode the header of the file...
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> Regards,
> Robert
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Pavel Afonine" <[log in to unmask]>
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> Date: 09/11/18 13:54
> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] VERY old mtz file..
>
> Now I see the value of storing data in plain text files even more (mind Shelx or X-plor formats, for example) -;)
>
>
> <Sorry for helpless comment. Couldn't resist as I've never liked non-human readable files.>
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> On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 9:47 PM Clemens Vonrhein <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> Hi Eleanor,
>
> You could try running the oldest MTZ2VARIOUS binary you can find -
> e.g.
>
>   wget ftp://ftp.ccp4.ac.uk/ccp4/4.2/binaries/ccp4-4.2_Linux.tar.gz
>   tar -xvf ccp4-4.2_Linux.tar.gz bin/mtz2various
>
>   bin/mtz2various hklin ...
>
> Any older binaries (ftp://ftp.ccp4.ac.uk/ccp4/4.0.1/) will require an
> SGI or Dec/Alpha machine ;-)
>
> If that doesn't help I would first check that it is actually a correct
> MTZ file: does the ASCII header (trailer) show up with
>
>   strings your.mtz
>
> towards the end?
>
> Cheers
>
> Clemens
>
> On Fri, Nov 09, 2018 at 12:47:09PM +0000, Eleanor Dodson wrote:
> > Anyone any idea what to do about this?? Created in 1992!!
> > Seems unreadable..
> >
> > No CTYP lines input for file:  1
> >     Indices output even if all data items flagged "missing"
> >  Warning, NOT all LABOUT data lines given
> > Warning: Machine stamp corrupted? Assuming native format.
> > >>>>>> CCP4 library signal library_file:End of File (Error)
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