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Hear, hear, Mike!

Mary
On 25 Oct. 2018, at 10:08 pm, Mike Kipling <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Bryan, 
 
It is wrong in so many ways!. ‘If’ did not appear until 1910 (in ‘Rewards and Fairies’) and I’m not aware that it was particularly addressed to John. Kipling later said that it was about Jameson. It certainly became a model held up for youth to ascribe to, not entirely to Kipling’s liking.
 
John’s name was inscribed on the wall to the missing at Loos ‘Dud Corner’ cemetery, and Kipling and Carrie certainly saw that when they attended the opening. Reportedly they were much affected by it.There was no individual grave until the CWGC changed the attribution of one in the 1990s.
 
Whether the photograph even shows Kipling must be questioned. I have not noticed that he was a bow-tie man!
 
Mike
 
 
From: To exchange information and views on the life and work of Rudyard Kipling <[log in to unmask]> On Behalf Of Bryan Diamond
Sent: 25 October 2018 18:27
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: RK in WWI website
 
The Times  16 Oct  p9 had a news item " Kipling and the King ...WWI" . re a new CWGC website commemorating WWI, including "Rudyard Kipling visiting his son's memorial".
 I have trawled the site, at https://shapingoursorrow.cwgc.org/depression/  I found one stanza of "If" labelled "by Rudyard Kipling, addressed to his son (c.1895)" and a photo of  a man in a field of crosses.
I did not think that  there was a memorial to John that RK would  have visited before the headstones were installed. Is this website correct?
Bryan Diamond
 
 
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