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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture See also the discussion in Gustav Adolf Beckmann, _Onomastik des Rolandsliedes: Namen als Schlüssel zu Strukturen, Welthaltigkeit und Vorgeschichte des Liedes_ (Berlin, de Gruyter, 2017), pp. 552-572. This includes a catalog of attestations of the Roman and other Montes Gaudii (an expansion of that proffered by Karl Löffel in his 1934 Tübingen diss., _Beiträge zur Geschichte von montjoie... _) that comments on mentions from around the year 1000 onward. The initial portion is available in a Google Books preview at: https://tinyurl.com/ya8cds8c and a table of contents of the pertinent section (C.2.2 through C.2.2.2) will be found here: https://tinyurl.com/yb8nxssp Best again, John Dillon ________________________________________ From: medieval-religion - Scholarly discussions of medieval religious culture <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of André-Yves Bourgès <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 4:02:11 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [M-R] Mons gaudii medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture Ipsi vero sic proficiscenti iterum apparuit summi regis nuntius juxta Montem Gaudii, qui circa Romam esse videtur, de quo civitas illa imperialis potest conspici, attribuens unum equum sicut nix album, videlicet caeleste auxilium ad tam longum iter peragendum. From vita of saint Tugdual bishop of Treguier (Brittany) [BHL 8351]. The author of this vita is anonymous; but recent scholarly research suggests he could be bishop Martin, whose floruit is middle XIth century. Verum muris egressi ad montis cacumen deveniunt, de quo quia partim urbs excellentissima conspicitur Mons Gaudii vulgo nuncupatur : ubi nivei candoris equum spatiosi videlicet itineris caeleste vehiculum, beato viro praebens discessit angelus. From vita longior of saint Tugdual [BHL 8353]. Its author remains unknown; but recent scholarly research suggests that this vita should have been written end of XIth or 1st part of XIIth century. Some references in the my recent study about "Les origines de l’évêché de Tréguier<https://www.academia.edu/36951042/Les_origines_de_l%C3%A9v%C3%AAch%C3%A9_de_Tr%C3%A9guier_%C3%A9tat_de_la_question> : état de la question", Mémoires de la Société d'histoire et d'archéologie de Bretagne. t. 96 (2018), p. 33-53. Best, AYB Le sam. 13 oct. 2018 à 10:02, André-Yves Bourgès <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> a écrit : Please have a look on the study by Marc DYKMANS, "Du Monte Mario à l'escalier de Saint-Pierre de Rome", Mélanges d'archéologie et d'histoire, t.80, (1968). p. 547-594. http://www.persee.fr/doc/mefr_0223-4874_1968_num_80_2_7561 in particular p. 549-555 (and n. 2, p. 560). Best, ANDTE YVES BOURGES Le ven. 12 oct. 2018 à 21:42, John Dillon <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> a écrit : medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture For the Roman and other instances of a Mons Gaudii (vel sim.) so etymologized see now Benjamin Z. Kedar, "Jerusalem's Two _Montes Gaudii_", in Micaela Sinibaldi et al., eds., _Crusader Landscapes in the Medieval Levant: The Archaeology and History of the Latin East_ (Cardiff: University of Wales Press, 2016), pp. 3-10. There's an unpaged version in this Google preview: https://tinyurl.com/y8r98ecd Best, John Dillon ________________________________________ From: medieval-religion - Scholarly discussions of medieval religious culture <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> on behalf of Cormack, Margaret Jean <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 1:03:44 PM To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: [M-R] Mons gaudii medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture Greetings all! It appears to be established that there was a mountain by the name Mons Gaudii outside Jerusalem, where the city first came into view; crusaders are said to have fallen on their knees there. And a Monte del Gozo where one first saw the city Compostella. There is also apparently a mountain (or hill) called Mons Gaudii in or outside Rome - is there a similar tradition associated with it? And does anyone know of any similar designations for spots from which a holy place was first be viewed? Is there any literature on the history of any of the locations mentioned (in particular medieval references?) 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