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Hi Neil, Not at all. I feel very strongly about paying freelancers a fair wage. It's an important issue, especially in our sector (which is often very bad at in). I do think funders should be firmer about this. You either end up with freelancers being underpaid or projects not delivering what they aimed to because costs have been higher than anticipated, neither of which is a good thing. Amy On Wed, 19 Sep 2018, 09:21 Neil Dymond-Green, <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Hi Amy, > > Hope you didn't feel like we were shooting the messenger. That certainly > wasn't my intent, so I apologise. > > Thank you for feeding back to the Friends group. > > Neil > > On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 at 09:11, Amy Cotterill < > [log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> Sorry all, I was asked to share it and did so without reading it. >> >> The project is being run by a small group of volunteer "Friends" attached >> to a historic site, so not experienced sector professionals. I don't know >> what advice they received in writing the brief and funding bid. >> >> I will anonymise your comments and pass them back. >> >> On Tue, 18 Sep 2018, 16:37 Bev Oliver, < >> [log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >>> Given the tight deadline and low fee, maybe they already have someone >>> lined up and want to appear to be open to all, but ensure the pool of >>> tenders is VERY small. >>> >>> >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> Bev Oliver >>> >>> -------- Original message -------- >>> From: Richard Ellam <[log in to unmask]> >>> Date: 18/09/2018 16:33 (GMT+00:00) >>> To: [log in to unmask] >>> Subject: Re: Tides of Tendring Project Coordinator >>> >>> Dear All >>> >>> This is, I’m sorry to say, almost a textbook example of how not to get a >>> good freelance worker. >>> >>> First there’s the insultingly low pay, which I suggest is about half >>> what the minimum freelance rate for a job like this should be, given that a >>> freelance has to pay all the on-costs of employment, such as pension >>> contributions equivalent to both employers and employees , and provide >>> their own office space, computing facilities and so on. >>> >>> The there’s the deadline for applications: next Wednesday, and the >>> expectation that whoever is appointed will be able to start work on the >>> project by the end of October. >>> >>> The people who wrote this brief really don’t seem to have a clue about >>> how freelancers work. If you’re serious about being freelance then you >>> really really try to keep yourself committed a few months in advance so >>> that you’ve got some level of security. I make stuff, rather than run >>> projects, but I’m now looking for projects that I’ll be delivering into >>> next year, because I know I’m busy up until Xmas at least with the >>> confirmed orders I’ve got. >>> >>> Freelancers should’t be seen as cheap labour. It should be recognised >>> that we are actually running small businesses, and so we carry a burden of >>> overhead costs ourselves that fell to the employers of salaried staff. >>> >>> And where was the HLF in this process. Presumably they agreed the budget >>> for this project coordinator, otherwise they wouldn’t be funding it. Did >>> nobody in the HLF stop and look at the derisory day rate being offered? >>> >>> This absolutely sucks, and even if I had appropriate experience I’d be >>> deploying my very longest barge pole in relation to this ‘opportunity’. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> >>> Richard. >>> >>> >>> Richard Ellam >>> L M Interactive >>> Science Shows and Hands-On Stuff >>> [log in to unmask] >>> www.lminteractive.co.uk >>> >>> On 18 Sep 2018, at 15:43, Neil Dymond-Green <[log in to unmask] >>> <[log in to unmask]>> wrote: >>> >>> £96 a day... >>> >>> I get that there isn't a lot of money in the pot for this project, but >>> I'd say there's a lot of days wanted for not that much money. >>> >>> Neil >>> >>> On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 at 15:07, Amy Cotterill < >>> [log in to unmask]> wrote: >>> >>>> Dear All, >>>> >>>> Please find the attached brief for the Friends of Jaywick Martello >>>> Tower's "Tides of Tendring" project. >>>> >>>> NB I'm forwarding this for a colleague. 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