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Same we have be doing that for the last 2 years. Karen Karen Eatock | Student Information Team Leader - Exams/Achievement Bury College | Woodbury Centre | Market Street | Bury | BL9 0BG t (0161) 280 8349 | w www.burycollege.ac.uk From: The FE Exams Network mailing list <[log in to unmask]> On Behalf Of Jake Meechan Sent: 24 September 2018 17:12 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: BTEC quals which can be achieved at more than one level As far as I am aware the BTEC Firsts are the same as GCSE which is a Level 1 / 2 qualification and 9-1 all count as a pass We checked on this a year or so ago and were told as the learning aim is for a L1 /2 qualification as long as you record as L1P it is fine. The Auditors go by learning aims so no reason for a Level 1 Pass not to be recorded as a pass. Wrell that's what we have been doing for a while with no complaimts:) From: The FE Exams Network mailing list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Vicky Buckle Sent: 24 September 2018 16:51 To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BTEC quals which can be achieved at more than one level We put them down as fail. You cannot put a pass for a level two if they have only passed at level 1. The auditors would have a field day From: The FE Exams Network mailing list <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> On Behalf Of Mandy Ogden Sent: 24 September 2018 16:39 To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BTEC quals which can be achieved at more than one level Are you sure about that - they haven't achieved at the level that they were enrolled to - we have always put them down as partial achievement against the level 2 and not counted them against the overall achievement and pass rate. The way I understand it is, that the qual aim is for level 2 (not level 1 and 2), and the learners have achieved at Level 1, therefore cannot be a pass. I would be very interested to know how you can count them as achievers (every pass counts here)!! Mandy From: The FE Exams Network mailing list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jackie Talbot Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 10:56 AM To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BTEC quals which can be achieved at more than one level Thank you Jackie From: The FE Exams Network mailing list <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> On Behalf Of Lorna Willmott Sent: 24 September 2018 10:33 To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BTEC quals which can be achieved at more than one level Hi Jackie They count as Achievers against the level 2 in Proachieve and are included in the overall Achievement and Pass rates. I think an Ofsted inspector would want a break down by L1 and L2 achievers - it's the same learning aim for both. Regards Lorna From: The FE Exams Network mailing list <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> On Behalf Of Jackie Talbot Sent: 24 September 2018 10:20 To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BTEC quals which can be achieved at more than one level Out of interest would the L1 Pass count towards overall pass rates on this qualification? Thanks Jackie From: The FE Exams Network mailing list <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> On Behalf Of Lorna Willmott Sent: 24 September 2018 10:04 To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BTEC quals which can be achieved at more than one level No probs, actually appendix Q (not 2!) - all recorded as outcome 1 and grade distinguishes level (bit like GCSEs) From: The FE Exams Network mailing list <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> On Behalf Of Sharon Collier Sent: 24 September 2018 09:59 To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BTEC quals which can be achieved at more than one level Thanks Lorna and everyone for their replies. Much appreciated From: The FE Exams Network mailing list <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> On Behalf Of Lorna Willmott Sent: 24 September 2018 09:58 To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BTEC quals which can be achieved at more than one level Hi Sharon This is from appendix 2 of the ILR guidance: [cid:image001.png@01D454A7.AAA9BFB0] Regards Lorna From: The FE Exams Network mailing list <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> On Behalf Of Lorna Willmott Sent: 24 September 2018 09:55 To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: BTEC quals which can be achieved at more than one level Hi Sharon There are a range of grades for these mixed levels in ILR: L1 for the Level 1 Pass L2PP for Level 2 Pass L2DM for Level 2 Distinction Merit Generally the Level 2 pass has a double grade and the Level 1 just the single grade Regards Lorna From: The FE Exams Network mailing list <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> On Behalf Of Sharon Collier Sent: 24 September 2018 09:49 To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: BTEC quals which can be achieved at more than one level Hi All Looking for some advice. If you have a student enrolled to a BTEC qual which can be achieved at more than one level do you record it as a pass or a fail if they are enrolled to the higher level but only achieve the lower level. For example, we have a student enrolled to PEARSON EDEXCEL Level 2 FIRST EXTENDED CERTIFICATE IN INFORMATION & CREATIVE TECHNOLOGY, but he has only achieved at Level 1. He will get a L1 certificate so can we record this as a pass/overall achieved or would it be a fail as he hasn't reached the level 2 which he was enrolled to. 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