Ruth

 

Cant agree with end bit of this.

 

 

It is important to note that the examples of necessary pre-commencement conditions (protection of areas or features of natural or heritage) given by the government are Statutory Duties, therefore contaminated land is captured under this umbrella.”

 

As far as I am aware planning consultation to EHO’s or EA on contaminated land is not and never has been a Statutory duty within the planning legislation (neither is noise and other nuisances EHO teams deal with and comment on).  It’s policy, good practise and implied in guidance to consult NOT  a Statutory requirement. 

 

This contrasts with the hardwired  protection for some natural env and historic sites in planning legislation which is why those examples had to be given.

 

Contaminated land and comments from discretionary planning consultations (EA in some cases) should not be expected to have the same weight as those matters built into the planning legislation if you’re a planning lawyer looking at an enforcement or appeal issue. 

 

The planning umbrella will not have to extend to land contamination though it probably will with many more queries and requested changes to conditions..

 

 

 

Regards

Martin Wright
Senior Regulatory Services Officer
Regulatory Services  Cheshire West and Chester Council

Tel: 01606 288664
Email: [log in to unmask]

Location:  1st Floor, Wyvern House, The Drumber, Winsford, Cheshire, CW7 1AH
Visit: 
cheshirewestandchester.gov.uk

 

Textphone (for hearing impaired, deaf and speech impaired customers) 01606 867 670

Fax 01606 867885

 

From: Contaminated Land Management Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Willcox, Ruth
Sent: 11 September 2018 12:15
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: OFFICIAL: RE: Pre-commencement Changes 1st October

 

Hi Frank and List

 

Despite popular belief there is not a prohibition on pre-commencement planning conditions.

 

The Local Planning Authority LPA just needs to justify why any have been imposed.

 

Where conditions are imposed the LPA is required to issue a Substantive Response in the form of a Notice.  It is not necessary for the LPA to issue a Notice if pre commencement conditions can be agreed between the LPA and the applicant. The applicant has 10 days to respond to the Notice.

 

The Government has stated the following in the consultation response issued May 2018:

 

The need to agree pre-commencement conditions with applicants will not prevent local planning authorities seeking to impose conditions that are necessary. In the unlikely event that an applicant refuses to agree to a pre-commencement condition that is necessary (e.g. to ensure the protection of areas or features of natural or heritage importance) then the local planning authority can refuse permission.

 

It is important to note that the examples of necessary pre-commencement conditions (protection of areas or features of natural or heritage) given by the government are Statutory Duties, therefore contaminated land is captured under this umbrella.

 

Link to the consultation response: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/705262/PCC_summary_of_responses.pdf

 

Kind regards

 

Ruth

 

Ruth Willcox
Planning Officer
Strategic Planning and Infrastructure

T +441752304154
E [log in to unmask]

www.plymouth.gov.uk

 

 

From: Contaminated Land Management Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of [log in to unmask]
Sent: 11 September 2018 09:23
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Pre-commencement Changes 1st October

 

Does the prohibition on pre-commencement conditions also extend to pre-occupation conditions?

 

If not, a possible response would be to reword the current pre-commencement conditions as pre-occupation conditions, together with a strongly worded advisory pointing out the financial risks to the developer of building on unsatisfactorily assessed/remediated ground (possibly including demolition and rebuilding) and strongly recommending that risk assessments and remediation are agreed with the CLO (and if interested, the EA) before construction commences.

 

The pre-commencement condition has always been a bit of a blunt instrument and it would seem likely that CLOs will have to engage in a much smarter way with the planning system to ensure that the minority of unwilling developers are made to address contamination issues satisfactorily. I would be very interested in seeing other ideas as to how to do this, aired in this forum.

 

Regards

 

Frank Westcott

 

Technical Solutions for Sustainability and Brownfield Development

 

Magnolia House, 15a Fore Street, Roche, St Austell, Cornwall PL26 8EP

0330 330 8015

07973 616197

 

This e-mail may contain privileged and confidential information and/or
copyright material which is intended only for the addressees named above.
Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorised and copying, distribution

or any action taken in reliance on it is prohibited and may be unlawful.


Westenviro does not warrant that any e-mail messages and attachments are free from viruses or other defects and accept no liability for any losses resulting from infected email transmissions.

 

On 11 Sep 2018, at 08:48, Robert Tyler <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

 

In most cases I assume it will come down to giving the applicant the choice of providing information up front or imposing pre-commencement conditions?  Would be good to hear other views and experiences on this.

 

Thanks

 

Robert

Robert Tyler
Principal Pollution Control Officer - Land, Air & Water 

 

London Borough of Hackney

Public Realm

Neighbourhoods & Housing Directorate

PO Box 70210

E8 9EJ 

Tel: 020 8356 4827 

 

For further information on Land, Water and Air issues see:  http://www.hackney.gov.uk/pollution-2.htm 

 

Sign up to be warned of Medium and High Air Pollution Events in London: http://www.hackney.gov.uk/airtext

 

Disclaimers:
1. General Environmental Information: Whilst all reasonable care has been taken to ensure the accuracy of the information and data provided within this correspondence, the Council accept no liability for any loss or damage howsoever caused arising from any reliance placed by any other person upon the information and data contained herein.


2. Relating to Planning (including London Legacy Development Corporation sites): The responsibility to properly address contaminated land issues, including safe development and secure occupancy, and irrespective of any involvement by this Authority, lies with the owner/developer of the site.

 

 

On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 at 08:04, Ciara Longman <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Hi everyone

 

From our Planning Manager “As of 1 October, the government are enacting some significant changes to the way we issue decisions. One of the key changes relates to pre-commencement conditions. These will no longer be permitted unless they have first been agreed by the applicant, and all applicants are given 10 working days to comment on any proposed pre-commencement conditions. Where they object to the condition, we are not allowed to impose that condition. The key impact of this on yourselves as consultees is that we will no longer be able to impose pre-commencement conditions because we don't have relevant information. They will only be used where absolutely necessary. Therefore, can I please request that you review your comments on applications to remove pre-commencement condition requests where necessary, and that where they are likely to be required that we get your comments as early as possible to allow the officer to complete the necessary notices.”

 

Worst case scenario this completely contradicts the outcome of Leeds vs Technoprint, ahem.

 

Upadate local requirements for Planning Validation policy and this information must be submitted on validation? I know a few LAs already do this but the majority don’t. So if a desk top/SI hasn’t been submitted on validation then we object?

 

What are other LAs doing?

 

Cheers

Ciara

 

 

Ciara Longman | Land Quality Officer

Community Enforcement Services

Pink Zone, Civic Centre

London Borough of Hounslow

Office: 020 8583 4532

www.hounslow.gov.uk

 

 


To unsubscribe from the CONTAMINATED-LAND-STRATEGIES list, click the following link:
https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CONTAMINATED-LAND-STRATEGIES&A=1

 

 

 

 

Disclaimers apply, for full details see: https://hackney.gov.uk/email-disclaimer

 


To unsubscribe from the CONTAMINATED-LAND-STRATEGIES list, click the following link:
https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CONTAMINATED-LAND-STRATEGIES&A=1

 

 


To unsubscribe from the CONTAMINATED-LAND-STRATEGIES list, click the following link:
https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CONTAMINATED-LAND-STRATEGIES&A=1


IMPORTANT: This e-mail (including any attachments to it) is strictly confidential and intended solely for the person or organisation to whom it is addressed. It may contain privileged, confidential or sensitive information. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not copy or distribute it to any other person or take any action in reliance. If you have received it in error, please notify your system manager and the sender as soon as possible and then delete it from your system.

 


To unsubscribe from the CONTAMINATED-LAND-STRATEGIES list, click the following link:
https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CONTAMINATED-LAND-STRATEGIES&A=1


************************************************************************

Disclaimer:

If you are not the intended recipient of this email (and any attachment), please inform the sender by return email and destroy all copies. Unauthorised access, use, disclosure, storage or copying is not permitted.
The views expressed by the author do not necessarily reflect the views or policies of Cheshire West and Chester Borough Council. The Council cannot guarantee that this message or any attachment is virus free or has not been intercepted and amended. You should perform your own virus checks.
Cheshire West and Chester Borough Council may monitor emails and as a public sector organisation; the Council may disclose this email (or any response to it) under the Freedom of Information Act 2000.
Contracts cannot be concluded with the Council nor service effected by email, unless otherwise expressly agreed. The contents of this e-mail may be subject to privilege.
************************************************************************



To unsubscribe from the CONTAMINATED-LAND-STRATEGIES list, click the following link:
https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CONTAMINATED-LAND-STRATEGIES&A=1