There may well be no schizophrenic brain, but there definitely does seem to be a schizo experience of objects, persons, landscapes... the issue, for me, is that this ought not be said, least of all in paint.

Luke

On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 at 19:52, Luke <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Is there anything you read that you look at and think "yes" that is me, myself, as a genius?

Luke

On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 at 19:28, David Bircumshaw <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Or defective detective?

On Tue, 4 Sep 2018, 5:42 pm Luke, <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

We do seem to know some stuff; mostly the rest is decorative?

Luke

On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 at 17:32, David Bircumshaw <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

I'm a covert realist myself :)

On Tue, 4 Sep 2018, 3:33 pm Luke, <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> words to that effect

They work for me. So not rhetorical then...

Luke

On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 at 15:31, David Bircumshaw <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Because the social world of power that I experience is complex, though brutal in its simplicity; incoherent, though authoritarian; inimical to psychological need though ready to gratify base drives.

Or words to that effect.

Dave

On 4 September 2018 at 15:19, Luke <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

So why are you using surrealist techniques? For complexity, incoherence, psychological needs?

Luke

On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 at 14:02, David Bircumshaw <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

I've had extensive dealings with Yodel and its complaints service lately and would suggest that it covers both post-surrealism and devices meaningfully combining into incoherence very nicely indeedy-deed.

Dave

On 4 September 2018 at 11:56, Luke <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Ok so what I'm working with is: devices meaningfully combining into incoherence.

A very good example of that meaningfulness would be any parody of closure... but it works with e.g. Imagism, I think, too; a collage that makes no literal sense but is still meaningful

Luke

On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 at 11:29, Luke <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

sounds like a good thing!

Luke

On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 at 10:38, Tim Allen <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

I tend to describe myself in general as a post-surrealist, or at least I prefer that to some other things I get called - the problem is it is a very wide ranging 'post'

On 4 Sep 2018, at 10:09, Luke wrote:

Sorry, a little drunk there...
I'm trying to find a starting point from which to say a poem works, rather than does something I like or feel I should. A specific type of 'verisimilitude', does that make sense?

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