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I think you raise an interesting point, about modernism, and how it is rather than was. That depends on both magazines and poets, and I think driving some wedge between them would just be unfortunate. Luke On Sat, 8 Sep 2018 at 16:09, Luke <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > go with the notion that you're understood even at your most cryptic > > And how exciting that is! > > Luke > > On Sat, 8 Sep 2018 at 05:32, jesse <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> Reuben, Is that the royal WE that you're using now? :-) No, I'm >> referring to all sides of the world and I think you're actually speaking >> for >> yourself and your own blameless actions. The last time I looked England >> was >> a pretty large place and the small press scene was a a large and various >> one >> with all kinds of editors and publishers that you can't possibly speak >> for. >> My opinion, Reuben? Pay the tuition, do the time, and start a small >> press >> that makes real books and requires your time and your money to run and >> then >> get back to us. You see I'm using a semi-royal US--it's starting to rub >> off. :-) Of course my observations to not extend to about the half the >> authors I published via Ahadada. >> >> Luke: Actually go with the notion that you're understood even at your >> most >> cryptic--that's the safest position to assume when you post here. Even >> the >> logical notation, but you seem to have missed the very thing that makes >> paraconsistent logics paraconsistent logics. Thanks, though, for >> pointing a >> great new field out. The principle of explosion is really wonderful. >> Still >> thinking about that. Many thanks! Jess >> >> Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2018 23:53:00 +0200 >> From: Reuben Woolley <[log in to unmask]> >> Subject: Re: What I've Learned About Small Press Publishing >> >> I don't know if you're referring to the situation in the US, Jesse. I can >> only speak about the situation in the UK. We rely on and are very grateful >> to the small indie publishers. We know they are not rich and support their >> endeavours. Once we get something published we plug it on the social >> media. >> We certainly support the other poets they publish. In fact. we celebrate >> whenever someone gets a work accepted for publication. We do much the same >> for each other when we get a poem accepted by a magazine. >> >> Of course there are exceptions, but we generally ignore them. >> >> Reuben >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BRITISH-IRISH-POETS automatic digest system >> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2018 8:00 AM >> To: [log in to unmask] >> Subject: BRITISH-IRISH-POETS Digest - 5 Sep 2018 to 6 Sep 2018 (#2018-237) >> >> There are 6 messages totaling 1156 lines in this issue. >> >> Topics of the day: >> >> 1. Bangless Logics (3) >> 2. What I've Learned About Small Press Publishing (3) >> >> ######################################################################## >> >> To unsubscribe from the BRITISH-IRISH-POETS list, click the following >> link: >> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=BRITISH-IRISH-POETS&A=1 >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2018 11:06:23 +0900 >> From: jesse <[log in to unmask]> >> Subject: Bangless Logics >> >> Luke, at first I thought WTF when I saw your proof, now see the whole >> logic >> of paraconsistent logics. The bang is gone. Learn something new >> everyday! >> Jess >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BRITISH-IRISH-POETS automatic digest system >> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2018 8:00 AM >> To: [log in to unmask] >> Subject: BRITISH-IRISH-POETS Digest - 4 Sep 2018 to 5 Sep 2018 (#2018-236) >> >> There are 4 messages totaling 2173 lines in this issue. >> >> Topics of the day: >> >> 1. Poet's dictioanry? >> 2. Question / thought on Prynne again (2) >> 3. do you like my equations ? >> >> ######################################################################## >> >> >> On Fri, 24 Aug 2018 at 19:48, Luke <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >> > It's just nonsense, paraconsistent logics are means to stop that >> > happening. Ah well, maybe all true >> > >> > Luke >> > >> > On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 at 01:10, Luke <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> > >> >> Incidentally, and I guess no-one here knows much about paraconsistent >> >> logic, but I'm trying to bug people at my uni into finding a logic in >> >> which >> >> my equations work out... ha, hope it's Ok to go on, >> >> Luke >> >> >> >> *POETRY IN THE EXTRA-MORAL SENSE** (theory and practice in the left >> >> wing**1 >> >> >> <#m_5744067851157756554_m_2741698183275262788_m_244025173454158601_sdfootnote1sym>* >> >> *)* >> >> >> >> >> >> *THESIS* >> >> >> >> *Someone is Olson and Olson thinks and does not think* >> >> >> >> *∃x(OLSON(x) ∧ THINKS(x)∧ ¬THINK(X))* >> >> >> >> *ANTI-THESIS * >> >> >> >> *Someone does not think and does not act* >> >> >> >> *∃x(¬THINK(x) ∧ ¬ACT(x))* >> >> >> >> *SYNTHESIS* >> >> >> >> *it is false that not everyone does not a**ct* >> >> >> >> *⊥ ¬∀x(¬**ACT(x))* >> >> >> >> >> >> 1 >> >> >> <#m_5744067851157756554_m_2741698183275262788_m_244025173454158601_sdfootnote1anc>*. >> >> Surrealism = Hegelian Marxism Pomo = Stalinism *LangPo = Maoism >> >> Neo-Modernism = Trotksyism Prynne = Trotsky Mina Loy = Lenin Lewis >> etc. = >> >> the Bolshevik Party Modernism = the Russian Revolution Symbolism = the >> >> Commune Rimbaud = Marx The New Sentence = 1968 riots >> >> >> >> >> >> On 22 August 2018 at 01:06, Luke <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Michael Palmer = Steve Jobs >> >>> >> >>> haha, I mean yeah. >> >>> >> >>> Luke >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On 21 August 2018 at 08:45, jbalizsprince <[log in to unmask]> >> >>> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> To the Birk, oh yes: >> >>>> >> >>>> John Ashbery = I'm not telling you >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Best, Judy >> >>>> >> >>>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone >> >>>> >> >>>> -------- Original message -------- >> >>>> From: David Bircumshaw <[log in to unmask]> >> >>>> Date: 8/20/18 23:54 (GMT-08:00) >> >>>> To: [log in to unmask] >> >>>> Subject: Re: do you like my equations ? >> >>>> >> >>>> Or: >> >>>> >> >>>> Larkin = morose knitting, whippily >> >>>> Michael Palmer = Steve Jobs >> >>>> John Ashbery = I'm not telling you >> >>>> Ted Hughes = a hawk's eyes watching you >> >>>> W.S.Graham = Whisky in the Snow >> >>>> Christian Morgenstern = Das Fliegender Cleese >> >>>> Seamus Heaney =Your Party, naturally >> >>>> Paul Celan = Heidegger's eyes in the hawk >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> On 18 August 2018 at 11:29, Tim Allen < >> >>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>>> Yes I like your equations. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> On 18 Aug 2018, at 03:37, Luke wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> *he Left Wing of the Bolshevik Party??* >> >>>>> >> >>>>> *Theory and Practice* >> >>>>> >> >>>>> *– Strictly speaking, it is not imagination that causes action; but >> >>>>> hope and fear, likes and dislikes, appetite, passion, affection, the >> >>>>> stirrings of selfishness and self-love **(John Henry Newman quoted >> by >> >>>>> Georges Sorel)* >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> *THESIS:* >> >>>>> >> >>>>> *Levertov + action = Olson* >> >>>>> >> >>>>> *Levertov - intellect = Zukofsky* >> >>>>> >> >>>>> *ANTI-THESIS:* >> >>>>> >> >>>>> *Olson + intellect = Olson* >> >>>>> >> >>>>> *SYNTHESIS in action:* >> >>>>> >> >>>>> *Olson = Zukofsky* >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> ------------------------------ >> >>>>> >> >>>>> To unsubscribe from the BRITISH-IRISH-POETS list, click the >> following >> >>>>> link: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=BRITISH-IRISH-POETS&A=1 >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> ------------------------------ >> >>>> >> >>>> To unsubscribe from the BRITISH-IRISH-POETS list, click the following >> >>>> link: >> >>>> >> >>>> >> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=BRITISH-IRISH-POETS&A=1 >> >>>> >> >>>> ------------------------------ >> >>>> >> >>>> To unsubscribe from the BRITISH-IRISH-POETS list, click the following >> >>>> link: >> >>>> >> >>>> >> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=BRITISH-IRISH-POETS&A=1 >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> ######################################################################## >> >> To unsubscribe from the BRITISH-IRISH-POETS list, click the following >> link: >> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=BRITISH-IRISH-POETS&A=1 >> >> ----------------------------- >> >> End of BRITISH-IRISH-POETS Digest - 4 Sep 2018 to 5 Sep 2018 (#2018-236) >> ************************************************************************ >> >> ######################################################################## >> >> To unsubscribe from the BRITISH-IRISH-POETS list, click the following >> link: >> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=BRITISH-IRISH-POETS&A=1 >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2018 14:55:06 +0100 >> From: Luke <[log in to unmask]> >> Subject: Re: Bangless Logics >> >> Ha, not sure what you mean... I was confused about paraconsistent logic, >> but trying to state what I meant in logical notation. Both of those things >> have little to do what I am normally posting, which are just questions >> and, >> occasionally, simple ideas that make sense to me. Sorry if it all comes >> off >> as nonsense. >> >> Luke >> >> On Thu, 6 Sep 2018 at 03:09, jesse <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >> > Luke, at first I thought WTF when I saw your proof, now see the whole >> > logic >> > of paraconsistent logics. The bang is gone. Learn something new >> > everyday! >> > Jess >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: BRITISH-IRISH-POETS automatic digest system >> > Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2018 8:00 AM >> > To: [log in to unmask] >> > Subject: BRITISH-IRISH-POETS Digest - 4 Sep 2018 to 5 Sep 2018 >> (#2018-236) >> > >> > There are 4 messages totaling 2173 lines in this issue. >> > >> > Topics of the day: >> > >> > 1. Poet's dictioanry? >> > 2. Question / thought on Prynne again (2) >> > 3. do you like my equations ? >> > >> > ######################################################################## >> > >> > >> > On Fri, 24 Aug 2018 at 19:48, Luke <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> > >> > > It's just nonsense, paraconsistent logics are means to stop that >> > > happening. Ah well, maybe all true >> > > >> > > Luke >> > > >> > > On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 at 01:10, Luke <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> > > >> > >> Incidentally, and I guess no-one here knows much about paraconsistent >> > >> logic, but I'm trying to bug people at my uni into finding a logic in >> > >> which >> > >> my equations work out... ha, hope it's Ok to go on, >> > >> Luke >> > >> >> > >> *POETRY IN THE EXTRA-MORAL SENSE** (theory and practice in the left >> > >> wing**1 >> > >> >> > >> <#m_5744067851157756554_m_2741698183275262788_m_244025173454158601_sdfootnote1sym>* >> > >> *)* >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> *THESIS* >> > >> >> > >> *Someone is Olson and Olson thinks and does not think* >> > >> >> > >> *∃x(OLSON(x) ∧ THINKS(x)∧ ¬THINK(X))* >> > >> >> > >> *ANTI-THESIS * >> > >> >> > >> *Someone does not think and does not act* >> > >> >> > >> *∃x(¬THINK(x) ∧ ¬ACT(x))* >> > >> >> > >> *SYNTHESIS* >> > >> >> > >> *it is false that not everyone does not a**ct* >> > >> >> > >> *⊥ ¬∀x(¬**ACT(x))* >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> 1 >> > >> >> > >> <#m_5744067851157756554_m_2741698183275262788_m_244025173454158601_sdfootnote1anc>*. >> > >> Surrealism = Hegelian Marxism Pomo = Stalinism *LangPo = Maoism >> > >> Neo-Modernism = Trotksyism Prynne = Trotsky Mina Loy = Lenin Lewis >> etc. >> > = >> > >> the Bolshevik Party Modernism = the Russian Revolution Symbolism = >> the >> > >> Commune Rimbaud = Marx The New Sentence = 1968 riots >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> On 22 August 2018 at 01:06, Luke <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> > >> >> > >>> Michael Palmer = Steve Jobs >> > >>> >> > >>> haha, I mean yeah. >> > >>> >> > >>> Luke >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> On 21 August 2018 at 08:45, jbalizsprince <[log in to unmask]> >> > >>> wrote: >> > >>> >> > >>>> To the Birk, oh yes: >> > >>>> >> > >>>> John Ashbery = I'm not telling you >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> Best, Judy >> > >>>> >> > >>>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone >> > >>>> >> > >>>> -------- Original message -------- >> > >>>> From: David Bircumshaw <[log in to unmask]> >> > >>>> Date: 8/20/18 23:54 (GMT-08:00) >> > >>>> To: [log in to unmask] >> > >>>> Subject: Re: do you like my equations ? >> > >>>> >> > >>>> Or: >> > >>>> >> > >>>> Larkin = morose knitting, whippily >> > >>>> Michael Palmer = Steve Jobs >> > >>>> John Ashbery = I'm not telling you >> > >>>> Ted Hughes = a hawk's eyes watching you >> > >>>> W.S.Graham = Whisky in the Snow >> > >>>> Christian Morgenstern = Das Fliegender Cleese >> > >>>> Seamus Heaney =Your Party, naturally >> > >>>> Paul Celan = Heidegger's eyes in the hawk >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> On 18 August 2018 at 11:29, Tim Allen < >> > >>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote: >> > >>>> >> > >>>>> Yes I like your equations. >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> On 18 Aug 2018, at 03:37, Luke wrote: >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> *he Left Wing of the Bolshevik Party??* >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> *Theory and Practice* >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> *– Strictly speaking, it is not imagination that causes action; >> but >> > >>>>> hope and fear, likes and dislikes, appetite, passion, affection, >> the >> > >>>>> stirrings of selfishness and self-love **(John Henry Newman >> quoted >> > >>>>> by >> > >>>>> Georges Sorel)* >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> *THESIS:* >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> *Levertov + action = Olson* >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> *Levertov - intellect = Zukofsky* >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> *ANTI-THESIS:* >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> *Olson + intellect = Olson* >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> *SYNTHESIS in action:* >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> *Olson = Zukofsky* >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> ------------------------------ >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> To unsubscribe from the BRITISH-IRISH-POETS list, click the >> > >>>>> following >> > >>>>> link: >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=BRITISH-IRISH-POETS&A=1 >> > >>>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> ------------------------------ >> > >>>> >> > >>>> To unsubscribe from the BRITISH-IRISH-POETS list, click the >> following >> > >>>> link: >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=BRITISH-IRISH-POETS&A=1 >> > >>>> >> > >>>> ------------------------------ >> > >>>> >> > >>>> To unsubscribe from the BRITISH-IRISH-POETS list, click the >> following >> > >>>> link: >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=BRITISH-IRISH-POETS&A=1 >> > >>>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >> >> > >> > ######################################################################## >> > >> > To unsubscribe from the BRITISH-IRISH-POETS list, click the following >> > link: >> > >> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=BRITISH-IRISH-POETS&A=1 >> > >> > ------------------------------ >> > >> > End of BRITISH-IRISH-POETS Digest - 4 Sep 2018 to 5 Sep 2018 (#2018-236) >> > ************************************************************************ >> > >> > ######################################################################## >> > >> > To unsubscribe from the BRITISH-IRISH-POETS list, click the following >> > link: >> > >> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=BRITISH-IRISH-POETS&A=1 >> > >> >> ######################################################################## >> >> To unsubscribe from the BRITISH-IRISH-POETS list, click the following >> link: >> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=BRITISH-IRISH-POETS&A=1 >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2018 15:29:27 +0100 >> From: Luke <[log in to unmask]> >> Subject: Re: Bangless Logics >> >> So e.g. I was just drawing an analogy between The Waste Land and the >> internet, their "echo chambers": >> >> Eliot's wasteland amounts to just the tonal play of conversation of people >> without moral authority. an effect achieved via a network of literary >> allusions about redemption that retain their absence from events in the >> poem (the typist is not a lovely woman). >> The internet is a lot of people talking at once and nothing else, no >> 'poetry' after conceptual poetry, and no authority on what anything means. >> >> Those two are analogous if you map "the past" onto 'authority on meaning' >> and poetry onto redemption. >> >> I'm suddenly not sure if I can be understood! >> >> Luke >> >> ######################################################################## >> >> To unsubscribe from the BRITISH-IRISH-POETS list, click the following >> link: >> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=BRITISH-IRISH-POETS&A=1 >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2018 02:41:15 +0900 >> From: jesse <[log in to unmask]> >> Subject: What I've Learned About Small Press Publishing >> >> What I've learned about small press publishing: there are more people >> eager >> to publish than to read books from their potential publisher. People tend >> to >> think your operation is larger than it is, and attempt to act accordingly. >> Writers tend to consider themselves geniuses and morph into Devas and >> Dervishes once you've accepted their manuscript, demanding what they >> consider to be the very best for their immortal works. Geniuses often >> attempt to treat their publisher as a foolish rich person with time to >> spare >> and unlimited financial and emotional resources who have no life outside >> of >> whatever services they may render their genius writer. Or they simply >> consider them robots who need to work faster. The publisher always seems >> to >> be guilty of the sin of publishing while the Writer remains the Pure >> Genius >> Writer. Therefore, as in any paternity case, it's ok to abandon your book >> once it's been published and let the publisher with his or her vast >> resources publish since that's their job, right? Therefore the Writer owes >> nothing to the publisher who is having a great time selling the WORK OF >> GENIUS, and therefore owes both the great time and whatever money can be >> generated from that great time, to the Writer. After publication, the >> Genius >> Writer then is free to march on to greater glory. Sadly, this is all a >> self-serving myth fed to the Writer by creative writing programs and >> conferences and movies made for TV. Small Press publishing is a labor of >> love until it isn't. No one ever makes money doing it, or at least I never >> did. Because of this Publisher As TOOL of My Genius philosophy, I began to >> stipulate that the author help sell and promote any work of genius that I >> might publish of theirs via readings and sales to family and friends, and >> gift sales, and all of the possibilities that open up to Genius writers. I >> asked that they buy an Ahadada book just to help the press and to see the >> kinds of writers we publish. And I still stipulate these things. My >> suggestion is that anyone interested in publishing with a small press be >> prepared to HELP AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE to PROMOTE NOT ONLY THEIR WORK BUT >> THE >> WORK OF OTHER AUTHORS PUBLISHED BY THE PRESS. Does this sound like too >> onerous a burden? :-) Jess >> >> ######################################################################## >> >> To unsubscribe from the BRITISH-IRISH-POETS list, click the following >> link: >> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=BRITISH-IRISH-POETS&A=1 >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2018 18:46:42 +0100 >> From: Luke <[log in to unmask]> >> Subject: Re: What I've Learned About Small Press Publishing >> >> Hey jesse >> >> > TOOL of My Genius philosophy >> >> All small publishers provide is money, it's poetry that matters ;-) >> >> Luke >> >> On Thu, 6 Sep 2018 at 18:41, jesse <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >> > What I've learned about small press publishing: there are more people >> > eager >> > to publish than to read books from their potential publisher. People >> tend >> > to >> > think your operation is larger than it is, and attempt to act >> accordingly. >> > Writers tend to consider themselves geniuses and morph into Devas and >> > Dervishes once you've accepted their manuscript, demanding what they >> > consider to be the very best for their immortal works. Geniuses often >> > attempt to treat their publisher as a foolish rich person with time to >> > spare >> > and unlimited financial and emotional resources who have no life outside >> > of >> > whatever services they may render their genius writer. Or they simply >> > consider them robots who need to work faster. The publisher always seems >> > to >> > be guilty of the sin of publishing while the Writer remains the Pure >> > Genius >> > Writer. Therefore, as in any paternity case, it's ok to abandon your >> book >> > once it's been published and let the publisher with his or her vast >> > resources publish since that's their job, right? Therefore the Writer >> owes >> > nothing to the publisher who is having a great time selling the WORK OF >> > GENIUS, and therefore owes both the great time and whatever money can be >> > generated from that great time, to the Writer. After publication, the >> > Genius >> > Writer then is free to march on to greater glory. Sadly, this is all a >> > self-serving myth fed to the Writer by creative writing programs and >> > conferences and movies made for TV. Small Press publishing is a labor of >> > love until it isn't. No one ever makes money doing it, or at least I >> never >> > did. Because of this Publisher As TOOL of My Genius philosophy, I began >> to >> > stipulate that the author help sell and promote any work of genius that >> I >> > might publish of theirs via readings and sales to family and friends, >> and >> > gift sales, and all of the possibilities that open up to Genius >> writers. I >> > asked that they buy an Ahadada book just to help the press and to see >> the >> > kinds of writers we publish. And I still stipulate these things. My >> > suggestion is that anyone interested in publishing with a small press be >> > prepared to HELP AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE to PROMOTE NOT ONLY THEIR WORK BUT >> > THE >> > WORK OF OTHER AUTHORS PUBLISHED BY THE PRESS. Does this sound like too >> > onerous a burden? :-) Jess >> > >> > ######################################################################## >> > >> > To unsubscribe from the BRITISH-IRISH-POETS list, click the following >> > link: >> > >> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=BRITISH-IRISH-POETS&A=1 >> > >> >> ######################################################################## >> >> To unsubscribe from the BRITISH-IRISH-POETS list, click the following >> link: >> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=BRITISH-IRISH-POETS&A=1 >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2018 23:53:00 +0200 >> From: Reuben Woolley <[log in to unmask]> >> Subject: Re: What I've Learned About Small Press Publishing >> >> I don't know if you're referring to the situation in the US, Jesse. I can >> only speak about the situation in the UK. We rely on and are very grateful >> to the small indie publishers. We know they are not rich and support their >> endeavours. Once we get something published we plug it on the social >> media. >> We certainly support the other poets they publish. In fact. we celebrate >> whenever someone gets a work accepted for publication. We do much the same >> for each other when we get a poem accepted by a magazine. >> >> Of course there are exceptions, but we generally ignore them. >> >> Reuben >> >> to 6 Sep 2018 (#2018-237) >> ************************************************************************ >> >> ######################################################################## >> >> To unsubscribe from the BRITISH-IRISH-POETS list, click the following >> link: >> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=BRITISH-IRISH-POETS&A=1 >> > ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the BRITISH-IRISH-POETS list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=BRITISH-IRISH-POETS&A=1