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The conditions in African countries are not the same as in Caribbean countries. The latter had a one crop economy because of the enslavement and Indentureship of its people. They were undermined for more than 400 years by European powers. African countries had the opportunities to do differently. ________________________________ From: The Black and Asian Studies Association <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of Kwaku BBM <[log in to unmask]> Sent: 27 September 2018 20:48 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Returning 'back home': NHS to establish nursing ‘earn, learn and return’ partnership with Caribbean country OK, 'Paradise' isn't a Louisa Marks tune, but people have to decide where they think paradise is. For Africans, is it somewhere in the Caribbean or Africa? And if it's Britain, people are poisoned all over the world, even in Britain. But somehow I don't think Russians flag up Britain, just because of, say, the recent poisoning of Sergei and Yulia Skripal. To each his or her own. If people want to live out the rest of their lives in Britain, fine. If other want to do so back home, that's equally fine. There's simply no reason to flag up incidents that happen over there as reasons not for relocating. Everywhere has its challenges, including Britain. Curiously we often hear "we came to rebuild Britain". It would be nice to also hear "we went back to help rebuild back home". Peace, Kwaku On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 5:40 PM Alison Bajaican <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: I have it on good authority that when Louisa Marks settled in the Gambia she was poisoned https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisa_Mark My lawyer has settled in Jamaica but has to return to UK for highly specialised treatment unavailable to him in the Caribbean. There is a lot of resentment 'back home' when individuals return from England - the mentality of the indigenous population won't change overnight nor in the course of one generation as we have seen with the recent deportation issue. On 27 Sep 2018 5:23 p.m., Kwaku BBM <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: 1. The first lot of directly recruited labour from the Caribbean into the UK health service in 1949 had the same 'repatriation' condition, and this was a time when Commonwealth citizens had automatic right of settlement 2. Writing from Ghana, perhaps some of us need to visit our (back) homes a bit regularly to see the potential there. Our home economies, infrastructures and services need building, and we ought to be encouraging those who've gone abroad to improve their knowledge and skills back home to develop, not simply stay on in Britain, which doesn't need their skills as much of their home nations 3. On Nov. 3 you have an opportunity to weigh your options B4 u decide 2 stay in UK, move 2 Africa or Caribbean: #HostileEnvironment<https://twitter.com/hashtag/HostileEnvironment?src=hash>? Look To Africa! History + Legal, Business, Political & #Garveyite<https://twitter.com/hashtag/Garveyite?src=hash> options for a #Brexit<https://twitter.com/hashtag/Brexit?src=hash>, #Commonwealth<https://twitter.com/hashtag/Commonwealth?src=hash> and #WindrushScandal<https://twitter.com/hashtag/WindrushScandal?src=hash> world + Golden Minutes! Sat Nov 3, 12.30pm Central London http://bit.ly/HostEnv <https://t.co/YGUvVYAzoI> Peace Kwaku On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 2:42 PM Alison Bajaican <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: What's interesting to me is the 'repatriation' part. Is this obligatory? What if they want to stay? What if they meet a nice British passport and build a home? Why would British born replacements suddenly find nursing 'sexy' again? If the incoming nurses are conscientious they are likely to see all sorts of things behind closed doors but won't necessarily realise the whistle blowing policy works against them. I always try and take our cousins in under my wings if I can - sometimes it back-fires... Alison On 27 Sep 2018 3:15 p.m., Amma Poku <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: Thanks, I've read and wonder whether this represents a "brain train" or "brain drain"? I also wonder what the rates of remuneration will be for nurses from Jamaica? Will they be paid less because they are "training"? Best wishes Amma On Saturday, 22 September 2018, 10:28:49 BST, Jason Schumann <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: Dear all, Please see following link: https://www.nursingtimes.net/news/workforce/uk-government-does-deal-with-jamaica-to-recruit-nurses-for-nhs/7024177.article In short, nursing staff from Jamaica and other Caribbean countries will fill gaps in the NHS, then be repatriated once the UK has reconciled current shortages with British born/ naturalized trained staff. That's how it's meant to work out in theory, but with this government who knows. In any case, I have a number of issues with this; not including the proposed bonfire of worker's rights following Brexit and wholesale privatization of Britain plc that is proposed in a report published this week. Regards, Jason Schumann Sent from my phone ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the BASA list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=BASA&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the BASA list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=BASA&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the BASA list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=BASA&A=1 -- Kind regards, Kwaku www.AfricanHistoryPlus.eventbrite.com<http://www.AfricanHistoryPlus.eventbrite.com> ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the BASA list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=BASA&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the BASA list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=BASA&A=1 -- Kind regards, Kwaku www.AfricanHistoryPlus.eventbrite.com<http://www.AfricanHistoryPlus.eventbrite.com> ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the BASA list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=BASA&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the BASA list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=BASA&A=1