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But isn't confidentiality supposed to be based on "need to know"?  It's
not the same as absolute secrecy.

I always tell people - and I hope I don't get shot down over this - that
the key thing is to make sure that everyone involved in the situation
knows where the boundary lies.  'The information you give me will be
confidential.  This means that I will only share it with people who are
involved in providing your care/treatment/advice, and they also have a
duty not to share it with anyone else.'

I seem to remember a case ages ago where a student disclosed a
disability to a tutor but asked for no one else to be informed.  The
eventual outcome was that because the tutor represented the institution,
the institution was now aware of the disability and had a legal duty to
consider reasonable adjustments - which could only be done if the
relevant people elsewhere in the institution were given the information,
regardless of the preferences of the student.

Best wishes,

Paul

Paul Ticher
22 Stoughton Drive North, Leicester LE5 5UB
0116 273 8191

On 09/08/2018 10:55, Peter Dinsdale wrote:
> I can certainly see that the information was provided in circumstances imparting a duty of confidentiality, and that the information has the necessary quality of confidence. The bit I'm struggling with is the concept that using the information for the provision of care is a breach of confidence. My understanding is that it's not that consent is required to process confidential information, is that the information cannot be disclosed without consent/public interest/legal duty. Or am I wrong?
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> I guess it then comes down to what constitutes a disclosure. Does the duty of confidentiality confine the information to the single individual to whom it was originally imparted? If that's the case, then passing it onto colleagues who are a part of the care giving process would be a disclosure, and consent would be the most likely circumstance in which to justify that disclosure. Is that how it works? I've never worked in health, so have never had to deal with that kind of situation.
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> Peter
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> As Donald suggests we need a virtual Chinese wall between GDPR and confidentiality.
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> Bottom line is we DO need consent to process confidential data for social work unless there is a basis to override. That consent can however be implied from the consensual engagement in the process. If the client actually objects to the keeping and use of data then the service cannot be provided.
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> You can easily adapt the following example which I use in training (summarised so not 100% accurate).
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> I go to my GP with an embarrassing condition. I ask him not to make a record of it but just advise me as my next door neighbour is his receptionist.
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> With appropriate explanations he should decline. He must keep a  record if he is to advise /treat me. Statutory duty. He cannot keep a record if I object on confidentiality grounds - no basis to override confidentiality. If he cannot persuade me then he cannot treat / advise me. If I say nothing he does not need to ASK for my consent to keep a record for confidentiality purposes - that is implied from my seeking treatment.
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> If it's a notifiable disease all bets are off - his duties are sufficient to override confidentiality.
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> In all the above this is nothing to do with GDPR legal basis which is never consent.
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