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Dear Randy,

Thank you very much for answering. I followed your suggestions but,
unfortunately, I couldn't get a reasonable electron density map after MR
and refinement.


First I would look at the data to see if you have ice rings, because the
> peak in mean intensity and second moment of the intensity at about 2.25A
> resolution suggests an ice ring problem.  If so, you should make sure you
> don't contaminate the data with spurious large intensities.
>
> Indeed, the data has ice rings. At first, I required imosflm to remove
ice rings, but it didn't happened. So, I re-processed the data in different
space groups removing the ice rings.

Second, the statistics (e.g. the second moments plot after tNCS correction
> in Phaser) would be consistent with a scenario in which you have
> pseudosymmetry along with a twin operator that parallels the
> pseudosymmetry.  If that's true, it's hard to be sure of the symmetry.  For
> instance, if the structure really is monoclinic, can you be sure you chose
> the correct axis to be the 2-fold?
>

I am not sure. However, I tried two possible axis to be the 2-fold and none
of them gave me reasonable maps after MR and refinement.


>
> Since you have a good model that gives clear MR solutions even in P21, you
> can probably process the data in P1 and solve it with 8 copies in the unit
> cell.  Then you can look at the symmetry of the MR solution (e.g. in
> Zanuda) and see whether it obeys any higher symmetry than P1.
>

I processed data in P1. After MR (with 8 copies in the ASU), it resulted in
TFZ=11.6 and LLG=1434. But the map is still bad and high Rwork and Rfree.
According to Zanuda, the data should be P21:

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

   | >>   4   | P 1 21 1   | 68.6868  |  0.6289  |  0.5487  |  0.5523  |

   ---------------------------------------------------------------------

   |      1   | P 1        | 69.4151  |  0.6171  |  0.5471  |  0.5559  |

   |      4   | P 1 21 1   | 69.3810  |    --    |  0.5482  |  0.5442  |

   |     11   | P 21 21 21 | 52.0271  |    --    |  0.6107  |  0.6178  |

   ---------------------------------------------------------------------

   | <<   4   | P 1 21 1   | 69.3810  |    --    |  0.5482  |  0.5442  |

   ---------------------------------------------------------------------

I processed in P21 using two different unit cells, and MR resulted in TFZ=20.8
and LLG=511, and TFZ=56 and LLG=2867. However, again, no good maps and
statistics.

Best regards

Marcelo Liberato

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