Hi all,
Not octopus. I see those a lot in seal stomachs and scats and they don’t look anything like these.
I’m almost certain these are eroded dogfish spines, Squalus acanthias. The other bits are likely eroded cartilage from the same fish.
regards,
Susan
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Dear Canan,
My guess would be that these are remnants of a small octopus. The two soft parts appear to have circular structures on them that resemble the suction cups. The two shell-like structures would be fragments of the beak. These are shaped like parrot beaks and highly curved. The two fragments look somewhat different but I think I am seeing a fracture surface so they could be just fragments of it. Hope this helps!
All the best, Hanneke
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hope this works!
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On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 12:32 AM, Salima Ikram <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
da da da dah!
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Salima: this is the right way to create suspense!
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El 02/07/2018 a las 03:06 p.m., Edward Maher escribió:
@ Salima: ba-dum-bum (cymbal splash)
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cannot see them. are you sure that they are not bits of Jonah?
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On 2 Jul 2018, at 16:36, Cakirlar, C. <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Dear all,
A colleague found these in an orca. Any clues as to what they are?
Thank you, all the best,
Dr. Canan Çakırlar
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