As I and others noted before, it is difficult without proper lighting and magnification. Regular light optical microscopes and basic Dino lites don’t produce accurate enough images for consistent analysis. There is no substitute for high quality technology to do this kind of analysis. Another option is to hook up with someone who has access to better technology. Most are happy to provide access if you are willing to coauthor with them. Sincerely Haskel Haskel Greenfield Sent from my iPhone On Jul 3, 2018, at 2:47 PM, Allison Grunwald <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: What would everyone recommend for no- or low-budget cut mark photography? Should I just look into cameras with good macro zooms? I find myself in the position of wanting to prove to myself what I'm seeing on certain specimens (ones where you wouldn't expect them to be) are indeed cut marks and I'd like to take photographs. I've been told taking photos *through* a microscope's lens can be sufficient but I'm skeptical and have yet to try. Thanks, Allison On Tue, Jul 3, 2018, 3:15 AM Aaron Sasson <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: Good morning Marie-Cécile, We did a collaborative exercise with the West Semitic Research Project (University of Southern California) shooting specimens with RTI (Reflectance Transformation Imaging) technique. The results were spectacular. Here is a link to YouTube demonstrating this technique: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxJixqe5glI You can find more information at the West Semitic Research Project website (http://wsrp.usc.edu/information/) and just searching the internet This technique is good for showing any surface modification like cut, gnawing or trampling marks. It was used in studies of the Dead Sea scroll and it can be used in the field too. With some training, anyone can shoot specimens in the lab or in the field. The main drawback, in my opinion, is that it is time-consuming. I'm keeping it short in this Email but if you need further information, feel free to contact me off list or in Ankara. Best, Aaron ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [cid:image001.jpg@01D240CA.91FCF010] Aharon Sasson, PhD Co-director, San Diego Zooarchaeology Laboratory Department of Birds and Mammals San Diego Natural History Museum 1788 El Prado, San Diego, CA 92101 Tel: 858-228-8157 SDZL Website: http://sdnhm.org/sdzl/ P Please consider the impact on the environment before printing this message From: Analysis of animal remains from archaeological sites <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> On Behalf Of Haskel Greenfield Sent: Monday, July 2, 2018 11:43 AM To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: [ZOOARCH] pictures of cutmarks: dino-lite? camera? I have tried the Dino lite unsuccessfully. It flattens the image too much and distorts around the perimeter. I still prefer to use a SEM since it allows for accurate depictions is relief. Sincerely Haskel Haskel Greenfield Sent from my iPhone On Jul 2, 2018, at 5:37 PM, Marie-Cécile Soulier <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: Dear Zooarchers, What kind of material do you use to obtain very good quality pictures of cutmarks on bone remains (especially concerning close views). Does anyone already tried a Dino-Lite? Or can someone recommend a good camera? Thanks a lot and have a nice summer Marie-Cécile Soulier ----------- PhD, Zooarchaeology https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Marie-Cecile_Soulier Agent contractuel CNRS TRACES - UMR 5608, équipe SMP3C N'imprimez ce mail que si vous en avez vraiment besoin ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the ZOOARCH list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=ZOOARCH&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the ZOOARCH list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=ZOOARCH&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the ZOOARCH list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=ZOOARCH&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the ZOOARCH list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=ZOOARCH&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the ZOOARCH list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=ZOOARCH&A=1