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I mean, obviously, it is changing AND amorphous. Why the rage? On 2 July 2018 at 20:40, Luke <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Ok Tilla, I'm sorry. > > Luke > > On 2 July 2018 at 20:37, Tilla Brading <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> Is your poetic belief rigid or changing, amorphous? >> >> >> Tilla Brading >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 8:21 PM, Luke <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >>> > I'm enjoying my snippet >>> >>> Ha! >>> >>> No I think one does find belief helpful. >>> >>> Luke >>> >>> >>> On 2 July 2018 at 20:09, Tilla Brading <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>> >>>> Do you need to 'believe' anyone? Poetry as a myriad of expressions with >>>> myriads of ways of apprehending it and I'm enjoying my snippet. >>>> Tilla >>>> >>>> Tilla Brading >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 1:03 PM, Luke <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> > this strangulated feeling people get because there are too many >>>>> poets and standards must be upheld etc... I mean natter way as much as you >>>>> like >>>>> >>>>> That's not what I meant, am not trying to educate. I dislike e.g. like >>>>> not knowing who to believe, as it makes for more much more work. >>>>> >>>>> Luke >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 2 July 2018 at 12:55, Peter Riley <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> How quaint to see this business arising yet again, this strangulated >>>>>> feeling people get because there are too many poets and standards must be >>>>>> upheld etc. We are back in the 1930s. More pertinently I remember Eric >>>>>> Mottram going on about this at a Cambridge Poetry Festival late 1970s and >>>>>> Douglas Olive getting angry with him — if you believe in poetry how can >>>>>> you want to restrict its production? >>>>>> >>>>>> So if you’re on about this at present I offer to send to anyone who >>>>>> asks (backchannel) for it an essay, expanded version of a talk given in >>>>>> Huddersfield in May, called “What happened to poetry?” I can’t invite >>>>>> discussion about this - - it’s big (28pp) and important parts of its >>>>>> coverage are unsettled. I mean natter way as much as you like but I shall >>>>>> be in the cellar. >>>>>> >>>>>> PR >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2 Jul 2018, at 12:13 pm, Tim Allen <0000002899e7d020-dmarc-reques >>>>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Yep! Trying to work out the difference between those who know about >>>>>> stuff and those who pretend to know about stuff or sound as if they know >>>>>> about stuff is very difficult at the best of times but when people have >>>>>> letters after their name it makes it even more difficult because of >>>>>> cultural rules and perceptions. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sorry haven't been posting much - too hot, too busy doing other stuff. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers >>>>>> >>>>>> Tim >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2 Jul 2018, at 02:47, Luke wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't think it should ever really matter that people are writing >>>>>> bad poetry. I suppose a worry is that the universities are churning out >>>>>> "experts" in poetry that aren't anything of the sort, and this encourages >>>>>> stupidity, not just in taste but in other matters >>>>>> >>>>>> Luke >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>> >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the BRITISH-IRISH-POETS list, click the following >>>>>> link: >>>>>> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=BRITISH-I >>>>>> RISH-POETS&A=1 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>> >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the BRITISH-IRISH-POETS list, click the following >>>>>> link: >>>>>> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=BRITISH-I >>>>>> RISH-POETS&A=1 >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe from the BRITISH-IRISH-POETS list, click the following >>>>> link: >>>>> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=BRITISH-I >>>>> RISH-POETS&A=1 >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from the BRITISH-IRISH-POETS list, click the following >>>> link: >>>> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=BRITISH-I >>>> RISH-POETS&A=1 >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> To unsubscribe from the BRITISH-IRISH-POETS list, click the following >>> link: >>> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=BRITISH-I >>> RISH-POETS&A=1 >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To unsubscribe from the BRITISH-IRISH-POETS list, click the following >> link: >> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=BRITISH- >> IRISH-POETS&A=1 >> > > ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the BRITISH-IRISH-POETS list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=BRITISH-IRISH-POETS&A=1