[log in to unmask]">Dear Alastair The Chronology of the recent book on John Lockwood Kipling indicates that 1898 JLK was in South Africa with Rudyard, sailing on 8 Jan and returning on 30 April. 1899, yes, that's New York and NY area (Feb to June) Nov 1900 to late May 1901 with Alice in Italy for six months winter 1901-2 Winter in South Africa--no further details about this trip Hope this helps. Barbara ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the RUDYARD-KIPLING list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=RUDYARD-KIPLING&A=1