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> Le 26 juin 2018 à 12:27, Ali Ilhan <[log in to unmask]> a écrit : > > And there are many engineers, who have no formal > education in design, and do not even have a manifest goal of designing > "beautiful" things, who end up designing unarguably "appealing" 3D objects. > So where do we draw the line? Who is going to decide who is a designer and > who is not? Dear Ali, Richard and all, I don’t wish to enter in the debate, but this part of your mail points at the difference : - a designer will spend 5 years learning something about the history of the field, and this is very likely to cover in a way or another the issues of how form and function are / have been / thought to be interrelated. That’s part of his or her culture. As much as 5 years of physics or mathematics make part of the culture of engineers, or statics part of the culture of architects… This means that an engineer might create an « appealing 3D object », by constraints, by latent memories, by … it will be by chance anyway, because he or she is unlikely to evaluate the « appealing » side beyond the « I like it » stance. As much as I might, sometime, as a designer, find a nice trick to manufacture some structural component : that will be by experience, trial and error, and certainly not by any formal and qualified process, of which I don’t have the knowledge and the culture. Best regards, Jean ----------------------------------------------------------------- PhD-Design mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Discussion of PhD studies and related research in Design Subscribe or Unsubscribe at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/phd-design -----------------------------------------------------------------