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Hi Mike,

I'm not sure about the bigger picture within museums, but when we moved IWM onto SSL-all-the-time (rather than just for forms/admin) we had to deal with a few complications, and I imagine they might deter others too. 

So we wanted to move to Let's Encrypt, as we'd done on many simpler sites, but there were two issues: firstly, the load balancer. The cloud LBs at rackspace can't have Let's Encrypt (well, certbot) on them, and since that system has moved to providing certificates of short duration that would mean generating the certificates somewhere else - a bit tricky in itself IIRC - and frequently uploading them to the LB. That rather wrecks the sweet automation that is one of the attractions of certbot. Secondly, if instead of terminating at the LB we passed encrypted traffic to the servers and ran certbot there instead, our cache - Varnish - wouldn't work, because it does HTTP only. 

I think what is still happening in that instance is that the certificate has cone from an old-school provider and terminates on the loss balancer, and unencrypted traffic is passed through to Varnish on the servers behind it. In another case, though, where no load balancer was involved, we put HAProxy in front of Varnish just to handle certificate termination (it's also perfectly good as a cache so you might just use that).

Probably too much detail, but I just wanted to note that any set-up beyond the plain vanilla may turn out to be off-puttingly fiddly for some people. Some ISPs are also still charging for something that should be free and they could probably do more to ensure that certbot worked on all their products. It's not an excuse not to go SSL all the way, though, and your site and web presence will definitely suffer more and more if you don't.

Cheers, Jeremy

Mike Ellis <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

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>I'm doing a bulk migration job today - actually, nothing to do with museums - but I'm noticing that about 80% of the sites I'm looking at aren't SSL'd.
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>We did a (really nasty / boring) bit of work moving 60 or so client sites to https on the runup to the GDPR deadline - we consider it to be an important component part of this - and Let's Encrypt was definitely our friend [https://letsencrypt.org/]...
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>Given that Chrome is going to start showing http only sites as "not secure" from July (https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/8/16991254/chrome-not-secure-marked-http-encryption-ssl) - and it's also become a ranking factor in SEO terms - I'm wondering how well the museum sector is doing...? 
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>Thoughts....?
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>Mike
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