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whose paper? our universities pay subscriptions for these journals and we even pay on top of that for the pages of our publications (even when they're not actually printed!), whilst we review papers for free! sounds like a well-validated way to use taxpayers' money to keep the expensive company cars etc. nice and shiny. why don't universities just require reimbursement for the time we invest to insure that the merchandise is up to standard? €100 per hour would be cheap. seems to me as though some capitalists need to add a few lines to their balance sheets.... best, jon -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Im Auftrag von Robbie Joosten Gesendet: Freitag, 29. Juni 2018 13:42 An: [log in to unmask] Betreff: Re: [ccp4bb] Oxford University Press Yes, but think of all the money they miss due to your pirating of their paper ;) It's the typical discussion about whether piracy of copyrighted material leads to loss or gain of revenue. There are a lot of models here, but not necessarily well-validated. Anyway, if people want to read your papers and cannot get them from ResearchGate, I'm sure they can find them on another online collection, a hub of some sort ;) Cheers, Robbie > -----Original Message----- > From: Bernhard Rupp [mailto:[log in to unmask]] > Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 13:23 > To: 'Robbie Joosten'; [log in to unmask] > Subject: RE: [ccp4bb] Oxford University Press > > Agreed, but for 10 years old papers this seems a bit of overkill.... > > > > From: CCP4 bulletin board <[log in to unmask]> On Behalf Of Robbie > Joosten > Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 12:11 > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Oxford University Press > > > > Were they open access papers? If they were, than OUP is being too > aggressive (IMO), but otherwise it makes sense. I also find the > ResearchGate is rather aggressive in bugging you to upload papers that > are readily available from the publisher. The whole business bit in > scientific publishing is a necessary (?) evil, but I guess if given > the choice one should publish somewhere where you as an author retain copyright. > > > > Cheers, > > Robbie > > > > From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of > Bernhard Rupp > Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 11:42 > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: [ccp4bb] Oxford University Press > > > > Hi Fellows, > > > > just an advisory that Oxford University Press is pretty aggressive in > > enforcing copyright - I had to remove 2 Bioinformatics papers > > from ResearchGate. > > > > Fortunately, authors have choices, too.... > > > > Cheers, BR > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > Bernhard Rupp > > http://www.hofkristallamt.org/ > > [log in to unmask] > > +1 925 209 7429 > > +43 676 571 0536 > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > Many plausible ideas vanish > > at the presence of thought > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > ________________________________ > > To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 > > > > ________________________________ > > To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1